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SB800 or another SB600

Postby Raskill on Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:13 pm

Hi folks,

Just a quick question for you all.

I need a new speedlight, as my trusty SB600 is needing a back up.

My main use will be for fill flash in the daytime. There is very very little liklihood of me using the flash off camera in any creative lighting setup.

So, the question is 600 or 800? The price difference isn't a small factor either ($265 compared to $500). I know many will be tempted to say "get the best gear you can", but if I'm not going to use the creative lighting setups that the 800 offers, do I need it at all?

Curious to hear opinions.

One again, apologies fo not posting any comments recently, Dial up is horrendous, and satellite won't be up and running for about a month.
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Postby PiroStitch on Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:37 pm

SB800 all the way. You already have the 600 and coupled with an 800, you'll be set up for pretty much anything ;)
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Postby digitor on Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:39 pm

One thing the SB800 has that the SB600 lacks, is A mode, which I find useful for fill in daylight. There's no pre-flash in this mode, and it's easy to set your lighting ratio by varying the aperture set on the flash. The SB800 hasn't quite got the flexibility of my Metz 45 CT4 when it comes to fill usage though - but it's not bad for a shoe mount flashgun.

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Postby jamesw on Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:20 pm

if you do not require the extra power of the sb800, don't bother with it. you've said that you don't need the CLS features of the flash, so is there any other point?
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Postby blackD200 on Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:52 pm

One thing to consider is the slightly different operation and menu system on both..
I had a SB800 and a SB600 as backup. i primarily used the 800 and when i switch to the 600, i find myself trying to figure out how to set what cos i dont use it as often...

Its not really that big of a deal, eventually you'll learn how to use both..
Though the SB600 now has gone to my brother and have purchased another SB800 for myself =) ...
I just prefer having the same item as backup, if finance permits.. Having said that - I wouldnt go buying a second 28-70 lens just for backup.

maybe in your situation not needing the slightly extra power of the SB800 and the CLS - a second SB600 is prob a better option - cheaper - familiarity with controls ...
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Postby photograham on Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:56 pm

I'd go and get the SB 800 and also learn the benefits of off camera use of the 600 as a fill flash, with the stronger 800 to also use as fill and/or commander. The CLS is really good
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Postby greencardigan on Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:38 pm

On the 800 you can tilt the head below horizontal. Good for macro.
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Postby Yi-P on Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:11 pm

Get at least one 800... you need it to commander other 600's... :D
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Re: SB800 or another SB600

Postby jamesw on Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:57 pm

Raskill wrote:There is very very little liklihood of me using the flash off camera in any creative lighting setup.


Raskill wrote:The price difference isn't a small factor either ($265 compared to $500). I know many will be tempted to say "get the best gear you can",


Raskill wrote:if I'm not going to use the creative lighting setups that the 800 offers, do I need it at all?
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Postby xorl on Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:14 pm

If you are only going to use the flash for simple on-camera fill and are never going to be doing anything off camera then you will probably be fine with the SB-600. For the price difference you can easily pick up a larger Nikon gel set (SJ-1) than the one included with the SB-800, and you could also get a little plastic "bare bulb" diffuser.

However, I would never recommend that anyone limit themselves to on-camera fill flash. Even if you aren't using Nikon CLS the SB-800 is still very useful for off camera work. It has a SU-4 mode which lets it optically slave off another flash (I find it immensely useful).

If you change your mind in future, would you be happy to purchase another flash to need your new needs? Of course you could just buy a PC-sync hot shoe adapter and/or a 3rd party wireless slave but that isn't as clean a solution as getting the SB-800 in the first place.
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Postby Raskill on Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:36 am

Thanks folks.

I think I am leaning towards another 600. I like the arguments for the 800, but realistically, grid shots (cars, girls and drivers), the lighting need not be overly complex.

Thanks for all who posted opinions, appreciate them as always!
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Postby bwhinnen on Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:21 am

I'll add only one thing Alan.

Recycle time...
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Postby Raskill on Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:16 pm

....so.....

I phoned DD photos to order my Sb600,....

...and now I own a SB800. And a few more 2 gig sandisk cards....

Damn it. The power of Visa.

I had a niggling doubt about ordering another 600, so I figured better to be safe.

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Postby bwhinnen on Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:38 pm

Good one Alan :) I was surprised at the difference one extra battery made on recycle time... And I am still only running on Duracell alkaline batteries.

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