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Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby Oneputt on Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:44 am

Rel any chance of an ID on this one. My reference books have left me unsure. Ta.

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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby ATJ on Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:30 am

I'm not Rel (not even close) but I believe this is a Litoria lesueuri, although it would be nice to see the non PP version.
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby Oneputt on Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:47 am

The only PP done to this is a little sharpening. Colours are as is.
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby ATJ on Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:10 am

Oh, wow. I still think it is L. lesueuri but the colour is quite odd (at least based on the L. lesueuri that I have seen).

http://www.frogsaustralia.net.au/frogs/ ... rog_id=161
http://frogs.org.au/frogs/species/Litoria/lesueuri/
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby blacknstormy on Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:31 am

It's actually Litoria wilcoxii (previously known as Litoria lesueuri , but reclassified after a taxonomic revision) - the males are significantly smaller than the females, and will colour up to this brilliant yellow when breeding - this is one that I took up at Crows Nest
http://www.pbase.com/narellepower/image/60578690

Crazy colour huh?

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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby Oneputt on Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:50 am

Thanks Rel - I knew that I could count on you :D By the way, other than The Wildlife of Greater Brisbane (which I bought) is there a good frog specific field guide I can purchase. I hate shooting things I cannot ID.
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby ATJ on Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:55 am

blacknstormy wrote:It's actually Litoria wilcoxii (previously known as Litoria lesueuri , but reclassified after a taxonomic revision) - the males are significantly smaller than the females, and will colour up to this brilliant yellow when breeding - this is one that I took up at Crows Nest

Rel,

Is that right across Australia, or only the Queensland frogs? From what I can find L. lesueuri is still valid for New South Wales.
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby blacknstormy on Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:14 am

the northern populations were reclassified in 2004, but the NSW population still exists as lesueuri .... there is an 'all right' distribution map for lesueuri on http://frogs.org.au/frogs/species/Litoria/lesueuri/ with the distribution for wilcoxii on http://frogs.org.au/frogs/species/Litoria/wilcoxi/ and jungguy on http://frogs.org.au/frogs/species/Litoria/jungguy/

If you want to get technical :
Although L. wilcoxii has been designated a distinct species within the Litoria lesueuri species group on the basis of geneitc and allozyme analysis, it was originally designated L.wicoxii by Gunther in 1864, and later incorporated into the larger L. lesueuri species complex. It has also been previously recognized as Hyla vinosa and Hyla kinghorni, though both of these are now rejected in Donnellan and Mahony's redesignation to L. wilcoxii.(Donnelann and Mahony, 2004)
taken from http://amphibiaweb.org/cgi-bin/amphib_q ... s=wilcoxii (actually a pretty good site)


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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby ATJ on Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:20 am

Thanks, Rel. I won't have to change the captions on my photographs, then. ;)
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby blacknstormy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:54 pm

is there a good frog specific field guide I can purchase


Sorry John - i never answered that did I? :(
There are 2 books I can recommend:
A field guid to frogs of Australia by Martyn Robinson
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A field guide to Australian frogs by Barker, Grigg & Tyler
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Re: Calling Rel - are you there?

Postby Oneputt on Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:48 pm

Thanks Rel will get the latter. Found the first title in my own research.
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