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High School Photos

Postby devilla101 on Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:22 pm

Well long time no post.

Recently I had a chance to take photographs at a Secondary School to promote their new facilities and students.
Having never done this shoot before I researched and below are some examples.

I processed this to play around with the color and to try to make it look more different than standard 'high school' photos. Anyway obviously the client doesnt get these images because I reckon its a bit too processed for their taste.

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Re: High School Photos

Postby Bindii on Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:37 pm

devilla101 wrote:
I processed this to play around with the color and to try to make it look more different than standard 'high school' photos. Anyway obviously the client doesnt get these images because I reckon its a bit too processed for their taste.


But you don't know that... I'd be including the standard ones as well as the processed ones in the proofs.. I know that I have bee shocked a few times by clients much preferring the more processed images to the ones that I thought they would select.

Btw... love this work... the first one is a cracker! :)
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Big V on Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:51 pm

Ron, these are nice photos and I am sure they would be happy with them. I trust they, the students have signed the necessary release forms - here in South Australia, we cant publish photos of school children without them..
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Re: High School Photos

Postby BullcreekBob on Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:54 pm

Big V wrote:I trust they, the students have signed the necessary release forms - here in South Australia, we cant publish photos of school children without them..


Here in WA, the law doesn't allow the students to sign release forms, the forms must be signed by a parent, guardian or legal carer aged over 18. It would appear from the images that they were not shot in an open public place, so it's very clear that (in WA) a release is required.

Does publishing these kids photos have any legal implications for Gary or this site?
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Big V on Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:17 pm

Yes, the same here in SA, I forgot to mention that the parent also needs to sign the release. It applies to any image where a student can be clearly seen. Backs or side on etc do not need the permission. Naturally it will only be a problem if someone complains but we had a student at one school who was never allowed to appear in any publication or school photo as they were at risk of being abducted due to the high profile of the family and they were in essence hiding out...
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Re: High School Photos

Postby sirhc55 on Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:36 pm

I like ’em :)
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Glen on Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:10 pm

Great work Ron, I am sure they will love them
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Geoff M on Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:30 pm

Great work, and I love the processing. The first is my pick.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby mattyjacobs on Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:31 pm

NO WAY!

I WORK THERE!!!

Were you taking photos during the chapel service last thursday? I was the guy playing guitar...
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Re: High School Photos

Postby devilla101 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:32 am

Ah what? Release form needed to publish these photos on my website? I might have to look this one up and pull it down if need be.

NO WAY!

I WORK THERE!!!

Were you taking photos during the chapel service last thursday? I was the guy playing guitar...


No, these were taken on tuesday. Where you that teacher in the school band playing the electric guitar?
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Yi-P on Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:43 am

devilla101 wrote:Ah what? Release form needed to publish these photos on my website? I might have to look this one up and pull it down if need be.


I think what they mean is that if you plan to use these photos on their advertising brochure or any sort of commercial work (advertising, selling, publishing, profit making) you must have a model release.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Marvin on Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:48 am

No they mean that if you take a picture of a child at a school you can't publish it. At my school there are about 40 students who are unable to have their photo taken, even for use in the school by teachers as part of a lesson, and especially not for publication - in the school newsletter, in a newspaper, on tv or on the internet. It's more a school issue than one of publication.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby devilla101 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:57 am

Well to play it safe im taking it off until I get a clearer idea what i can and can't do with these images.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby mattyjacobs on Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:13 am

devilla101 wrote:No, these were taken on tuesday. Where you that teacher in the school band playing the electric guitar?


yep.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby devilla101 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:39 am

haha, no way! I was about to walk up to you and ask how many times you've repeated. I actually have a few snaps of you somewhere.

Anyway pass on my thanks to the seniors for being such good sport to work with. It really was a good day
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Marvin on Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:43 pm

I think that is a good idea - I think you would need parental permission to post them. However, I actually thought the pictures were really good and I liked the pp on the first one particularly.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby devilla101 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:08 pm

Well thanks for the comments everyone. Really appreciate the positive review and at least I know im on the right track if similar assignments come up again.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Raskill on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:17 pm

Careful.

Taking the images down smacks of censorship. Be different if you were selling them to folk.

People around here get very upset over photographic issues.

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Re: High School Photos

Postby gstark on Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:20 pm

Ron,

Sad as it seems, I think your decision to pull the images was a good idea.

I too thought the images were nicely done - especially the last of them - and I agree with the comment that they should be included with what you give them. After all, what qualifies you to know what they may, or may not, like? If you exclude them because they're not good enough to meet your standards, that's a different issue altogether.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Matt. K on Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:16 pm

I think they are very appealing and very well done. Believe in your gut feeling because that's your style.
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Re: High School Photos

Postby devilla101 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:33 am

Thanks for the encouragement Gary and Matt. Appreciate them as always
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Re: High School Photos

Postby Marvin on Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:51 am

Raskill wrote:Careful.

Taking the images down smacks of censorship. Be different if you were selling them to folk.

People around here get very upset over photographic issues.

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Raskill, it is not censorshop and not getting upset over the issues. The problem is that these are minor children (I assume), taken at their school. As a teacher, I am not allowed to take photographs of children at school at all, for any purpose, without parental permission. Certainly, neither are our "school photographers" who take the class pictures. We have to pull some children out of the class photos, as these photos go home and these children are not allowed to have their photo taken for distribution anywhere. In my opinion this is quite silly, but it seems to be the rules of society these days. We can't do anything without parent permission (including check their children for headlice, treat them for an injury, let them use the internet, publish their name or photo in the school newsletter). This is to protect the children whose lives may be at risk, usually after being taken from their family and under the guardianship of the minister. I do realise that this is very likely to not be the case with these photos, but in our society it pays to be careful when using pictures of other people's children.

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