Is this site sloooow?

[mozzie]

I still think that in the meantime you should remove the portal page. .

tend to agree there.... today its slow again - not as slow as the really really slow days but i rather liked the protal free -page loads in less than forever mode we had yesterday....

good luck Gary - i'm sure it'll get there in the end

[ATJ]

I still think that in the meantime you should remove the portal page. Not many people will wait 3 minutes for it to load up. At least without it you can quickly see if there are any new threads that you may be interested in and worth waiting for.

I rarely use the portal page to look for new posts. In fact, the only time I go to the portal is to check the bargins. I use the "View new posts" link which appears on every page and sit on that. i.e. there's no reason to disable the portal page.

[gstark]

i.e. there's no reason to disable the portal page.

Except as a gateway. It does contain some other useful info.

I now have a working codebase of phpbb3.02 with a different portal. I need to add in a couple of other things, and then see how the custom stuff works with that.

The new portal has some interesting features - that I like. I need to mess with it some more, and that won't really start to happen till tomorrow. The data conversion, so far, isn't too bad: it looks like less than an hour downtime for the data dump, install and convert, but I still have a lot of things to look at before I'm happy. Sometime tomorrow afternoon (hopefully) I can give a few of you a link for the test site, so that I can get some feedback on it.

In the meantime, I've just done a double shift at RDJ, and our streaming tests are now finished, with live streaming to commence at 7am tomorrow morning, which is exactly the station's 25th anniversary. To the minute. So that's been occupying some of my time as well.

I'll throw a link to the station into this site as a permanent link, for those who wish to listen to and support community radio, or for those sad cases who just want to listen to me.

[Ant]

Gary,

What components are shared? Server, Database? Are these all running on the same server? I can't see the problem being in the PHPBB as a lot of people would be screaming about that. Sorry if I am asking questions you have already answered, I know how frustrating that can be as well

Ant.

[W00DY]

Thanks for trying to fix the site Gary...

My main problem is I can't even post I get a "Service Unavailable" maeesage.

However, if this goes through then I will look a little silly Bu tit has happened the last 5 times I have tried to start a new post.

Andrew

[W00DY]

Ok, so Murphy's law strikes again!!!

Here is the error message I get when trying to start a new thread:

"Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."

Has been happening since yesterday.

Cheers,
Andrew

[gstark]

Gary,

What components are shared? Server, Database? Are these all running on the same server? I can't see the problem being in the PHPBB as a lot of people would be screaming about that. Sorry if I am asking questions you have already answered, I know how frustrating that can be as well

Ant.

Ant,

All services are shared, with th SQL living on a different physical as well as logical host from the apache.

While I agree about the standard phpbb, I'm using a custom frontend based upon the turkiye portal, and that has always felt slow to me, but I've never been able to isolate exactly why or where. It seems to me to be something in one of the queries there ...

And what I suspect is happening is that if one person hits one of those (slow/intense) queries, then that affects the SQL box ... two such queries ... has a greater effect ... you get the idea.

At the moment I'm making good, but slow, progress on the upgrade to 3.02. The baseline codebase looks good, and the portal - XL5.0 - feels a lot faster. It provides some placeholders for static blocks, as well as tab pages across the top. The style set with the tab pages assumes certain mods are applied, and most of the preinstalled mods are ones that I have no wish to see here, so I need to remove some code from the styles, and then we needs to look at the Nikon and Canon styles and see how we customise those to to suit.

And there's no obvious way, within the standard interfaces, that I can see how to restrict access to the bargains page, so that still needs to be custom code. That's the next immediate task ahead of me, having just completed the rendering and storage of the PotW.

Andrew, it looks as if you caught the system when DH were doing some minor maintenance. Not much I can do about that.

[ATJ]

Opening threads has definitely been faster today. Responding has too.

[W00DY]

Andrew, it looks as if you caught the system when DH were doing some minor maintenance. Not much I can do about that.

Gary,

Are they still doing something becouse I am unable to start new threads (and I have a very important question to ask!!!). I can reply to threads but not start new ones?

Andrew

[myarhidia]

Hi Gary, don't know if this helps. When I'm not logged in, portal & posts come up fast. When I'm logged in, everything is slow.

[Alpha_7]

Its loading much faster for me

[Ant]

All services are shared, with th SQL living on a different physical as well as logical host from the apache.

[snip]

And what I suspect is happening is that if one person hits one of those (slow/intense) queries, then that affects the SQL box ... two such queries ... has a greater effect ... you get the idea.

That was where I was heading, and this being the case, it could even be another user of the SQL box impacting your site. DH should have the appropriate tools to diagnose this (maybe not the interest though). My concern here is that you may not be able to fix the issue if it is not a query coming from your site (welcome to my daily nightmare).

Ant.

[scott s]

any chance of an email / pm when its all working. The 90 second page loading times are still making the site unusable for me. But i am getting more work done !!

[tangcla]

Seems slow for me at home, but at work it isn't too bad

[gstark]

All services are shared, with th SQL living on a different physical as well as logical host from the apache.

[snip]

And what I suspect is happening is that if one person hits one of those (slow/intense) queries, then that affects the SQL box ... two such queries ... has a greater effect ... you get the idea.

That was where I was heading, and this being the case, it could even be another user of the SQL box impacting your site. DH should have the appropriate tools to diagnose this (maybe not the interest though).

Yep; I'm well aware of this.

Yes, they will have the tools, but I don't, nor do I have access to see whom else is using the various boxes. And I cannot even find out what my resource limitations are supposed to be, so I do not know what the target that I cannot see might be.

All I know is that when I query the performance, they tell me that one of my scripts is overusing resources and is getting killed by their script killer. I have little choice but to accept that at face value, and to try to identify the rogue script.

Again, the most likely culprit is the stuff that I have done, and thus working to eliminate the impact of that stuff is the sandpit I'm playing in.

[Finch]

Yes, unfortunately this site has been painfully slow for a few weeks. I surf many different sites and a few forums and it is always dslr that slows to a snail's pace. I have fast Broadband but that doesn't help at all with dslr. Only just saw this post and wanted to add my opinion (tonight in particular has been painful).

Gary, I know you are doing what you can to rectify but feedback is important from different users in different areas.

Cheers

Michael

[the foto fanatic]

Thank God for tabbed browsing.

If I couldn't move to other sites, it would drive me crazy.

The initial startup for this site is still painfully slow for me, and moving from thread to thread seems to take an eternity. I click on a thread, then move to another tab while our server does its thing.

As for making a post - slower than watching paint dry...

[ATJ]

Thank God for tabbed browsing.

I hate tabbed browsing. The original idea of Windows was to be able to have everything in a separate window and that's the way I like it, and that's the way I like it, so please... oops...

Having multiple windows lets me go to other sites, too. i.e. I don't need tabbed browsing to get around how dismally slow this site is (and while it was good for a while, it is slow again).

[CraigVTR]

I have been reading quite a few different posts this morning, from the view new posts page, and whilst some have loaded quickly others have been sloooow. I cannot see any simalarity between all the posts that have been slow to load so am probly not adding anything to the diagnosis. Oh well the slow posts have allowed me to get in to the kitchen and get the washing up done, which will keep the missus happy.

[norbs]

24 seconds for this thread to load. 12 seconds to be able to type a reply.

[Reschsmooth]

One of the reasons I haven't been on here as often, in a posting capacity, is the speed. Whilst our connection at work is very slow on any site, at home, this can easily take 3-5 minutes to load up to the front page (both laptop and Mac), and take quite a while to get back there or to open a thread. No other site I have been on has been this slow.

I don't want to sound like I am whinging but just providing feedback.

[sirhc55]

How’s it going Gary? Still the slowest of any site I visit.

[gstark]

I have a working codebase, but I need Leigh to do some graphics for me.

[who]

Can I suggest what I do to get by.

http://www.dslrusers.com/index.php -- is quick to load.

I then login from there, and selsct the view new posts link near the top.

I then right click on each post I want to see and open in new tab.... and go through the tabs, reply if needed, and close the tab once read.

[Oneputt]

As of this very moment it is the quickest it has been for quite a while.

[scott s]

As of this very moment it is the quickest it has been for quite a while.

lies.
its taken me nearly 5 min from log in, to reading this, to pressing reply, to relogging in, and finally to replying.....

[gstark]

As of this very moment it is the quickest it has been for quite a while.

lies.

Scott,

No, it's not lies, and it is inappropriate for you to say this.

I see fast response here, and I see slow response. And it took maybe two seconds for this page to to load for me.

There are many factors that affect the site's response, and not all of them are server related. While I accept that some aspects of the server are slow, it is simply not acceptable for you to use this sort of response on this site, regardless of the responses that you experienced.

[Glen]

I was expecting to read someone had found a rogue script in this thread, because it is working normally for me right now

[Glen]

Update, this log in seems slow

[sirhc55]

It logs me out constantly

[gstark]

It logs me out constantly

That's usually your cookies.

Eat 'em.

or clear 'em.

[chrisk]

interesting thing about the logging out thing. some days, (like right now), i remain logged in but others i have to enter my details. no changes on cookie settings on my end that i am doing manually. not sure if this is just me or not...

i find once you actually get into the site, (i use the portal page), its working quite fast at the moment.

[carla_d]

just wanted to say thanks for the time you're putting into this Gary. i'm sure i'm not the only one who is much appreciative.

[gstark]

interesting thing about the logging out thing. some days, (like right now), i remain logged in but others i have to enter my details. no changes on cookie settings on my end that i am doing manually. not sure if this is just me or not...

One other point about getting logged out. Please make sure that you're using the dslrusers.com domain.

[chrisk]

i'm sure i'm not the only one who is much appreciative.

no, you;re not.

[ATJ]

I almost never get logged out. Even after a reboot, I can come back in without having to log on. The site can still be bloody slow, though.

[sirhc55]

It logs me out constantly

That's usually your cookies.

Eat 'em.

or clear 'em.

So, why did this not happen before the slow down on this site

[gstark]

It logs me out constantly

That's usually your cookies.

Eat 'em.

or clear 'em.

So, why did this not happen before the slow down on this site

It has, to others, from time to time.

[who]

Seemingly quick for me today, through the portal, and log in and posting this reply.

[Big Red]

just had my phone line reconnected [harvesting equipment cut it] and received a whole heap of activation emails and i ain't even a mod.
[as in ... activate new users]

sent a copy to you gary,

[gstark]

sent a copy to you gary,

Thanx Shane. Got it, and responded.

As you will note, nothing to do with any of my sites though.

Had me going for a few minutes however.

[Big Red]

when i saw the address i thought it was this site and i had suddenly become a moderator

[zafra52]

I tend to think that the more people are engaged in viewing and posting the slower the site becomes. This may be the symptom, but not the cause.

[sirhc55]

I tend to think that the more people are engaged in viewing and posting the slower the site becomes. This may be the symptom, but not the cause.

Depends, one of the sites I visit frequently had over 35,000 visitors on a particular day earlier this year without missing beat

[who]

We could always try for one of those legendary threads that the world checks in on here.... like the Sitkowned, the current "girlfriend"pics on a body building forum, or dodgy car mods like the welded turbo fins et al.....

That will test the servers