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What else lies beneath? *terminator* EDITED

Postby surenj on Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:44 am

Yes there is more than just lies that lie beneath.... :mrgreen:

Thanks for the suggestion Gerry.

As usual, I would love your feedback.

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Edited version : Thanks for all your suggestions!
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The terminator underneath is copyright Warnerbrothers. I hope they don't mind as long as I don't sell this picture.
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby biggerry on Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:32 am

:rotfl2: classic surenj, that is actually not too shabby :up: :up:
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby craig.rohse on Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:22 am

Hi Suren

I prefer the original version to this one.
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby gstark on Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:29 am

craig.rohse wrote:I prefer the original version to this one.


:agree:

The other one had more of a 3-D appearance, which this one doesn't quite achieve. Good concept again, and clearly, Suren, you're having fun. Nothing else matters. :)
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby zafra52 on Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:37 am

The problem because part of the robot appears under the flesh, but then as the eye moves around it appear to be super imposed on the face as a kind os plastic mask. It needs to appear as if part of the flesh has been torn and the robotic nature shows underneath.
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby surenj on Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:00 pm

biggerry wrote:classic surenj, that is actually not too shabby

:mrgreen:

craig.rohse wrote:I prefer the original version to this one.

gstark wrote:The other one had more of a 3-D appearance, which this one doesn't quite achieve

Interesting you guys say that because most of the elements in the first was real; including the mask. IMHO it's not that hard to make something look real if you understand the shadows. I am slowly learning...


zafra52 wrote:The problem because part of the robot appears under the flesh, but then as the eye moves around it appear to be super imposed on the face as a kind os plastic mask. It needs to appear as if part of the flesh has been torn and the robotic nature shows underneath.

I'll think about how this has been solved on the poster versions to see what is different about mine. I have deliberately added shadows to show depth and burnt areas of skin to the whole body to show that this terminator has taken a bit of a beating..

Again, thanks for your invaluable opinions!! I will work on this over the weekend and see what I can comeup with.
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby Mr Darcy on Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:53 pm

surenj wrote:and burnt areas of skin to the whole body

And here was me thinking that was your natural tan :lol:

Suren,
THe shadows work on the RHS (ear) , but they are on the wrong side on the LHS (around the nose)
Think about it If you see one set as shadow, you shouldn't see the other set.
Also, why is the skull smiling, but the lips are not? THis is what probably bothers me most about this.
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator version*

Postby surenj on Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:51 pm

Mr Darcy wrote:And here was me thinking that was your natural tan

Also this is not me. :mrgreen:

Mr Darcy wrote:THe shadows work on the RHS (ear) , but they are on the wrong side on the LHS (around the nose)

Thanks for this tip. I realise what you are saying but struggled to make the changes to look realistic.

I have posted the edited image at the top of the thread...
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator* EDITED

Postby zafra52 on Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:48 pm

The second image looks better, but I would still feather the right edge a bit more.
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Re: What else lies beneath? *terminator* EDITED

Postby Mr Darcy on Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:10 pm

A huge improvement Suren.
Some more ideas:
    The shadow at the top should taper in to the skin rather than end abruptly
    The shadow at the right should mirror the skin. After all that is what is casting the shadow.
    The skin seems too far out from the substructure. Perhaps some gristle or muscle to explain it.
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