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Rio Carnival Day3

Postby wendellt on Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:50 pm

Some from day 3 imagine a 10,000 people all adorned in themed costumes walking down a 500 metre strip with 10,000 samba drums beating away to a stadium crowd, there was no way i could show the whole ambience so i shot close

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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby colin_12 on Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:35 pm

You seem to work well up close Wendell. These give a great sense of atmosphere. :up:
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby radar on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:13 pm

The las two are fantastic :bowdown: :bowdown:
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby Big V on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:41 pm

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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby surenj on Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:53 pm

Dude, :bowdown:
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby barry on Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:38 pm

Love #4. Well done.
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby biggerry on Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:22 pm

zomg!

#4 is a great shot, although I am more impressed with how the lady holds herself in #2

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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby DebT on Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:01 pm

Sensational I can almost hear the music
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby Willy wombat on Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:19 pm

fun fun fun!
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby natskis on Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:37 pm

Hey Wendel,

Your shots of Carnivale are fantastic.
Are all the women on those floats drop dead beautiful with bodies of Victoria Secret Angels?

Shiesa!

Hey, Newbie questions incoming...

Photo 1: Would you crop out that guy in the white/blue jacket?
Personally, he's quite distracting. Anyone else's thoughs on this or cropping procedures such as this?
The girls dress does go into his body but... my question is what would you do in a circumstance like this?

Photo 2: Wow! What a pose, what a smile, what a subject and what an amazing costume!
Small thing, her right hand is streaking.
This is subjective of course, would the shot be better having the shutter firing quicker to eliminate that?
Or is that part and parcel of capturing motion in events? What amount of streaking in action shots is good and bad?

What about the floodlights on the right hand side?
Would there be concideration about taking them out or at least diminishing their brightness?
My eye is lead away to the lights because they're bright after viewing the very beautiful lady :)
Again these might be subjective and as a newbie, I'm wondering what people's thoughts would be as to what could be more correct?

Photo 3: Is WOW!

Photo 4: is HOLY MOTHER OF WOW! My fav of the series :D
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby photomarcs on Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:31 pm

natskis wrote:Hey Wendel,

Your shots of Carnivale are fantastic.
Are all the women on those floats drop dead beautiful with bodies of Victoria Secret Angels?

Shiesa!

Hey, Newbie questions incoming...

Photo 1: Would you crop out that guy in the white/blue jacket?
Personally, he's quite distracting. Anyone else's thoughs on this or cropping procedures such as this?
The girls dress does go into his body but... my question is what would you do in a circumstance like this?

Photo 2: Wow! What a pose, what a smile, what a subject and what an amazing costume!
Small thing, her right hand is streaking.
This is subjective of course, would the shot be better having the shutter firing quicker to eliminate that?
Or is that part and parcel of capturing motion in events? What amount of streaking in action shots is good and bad?

What about the floodlights on the right hand side?
Would there be concideration about taking them out or at least diminishing their brightness?
My eye is lead away to the lights because they're bright after viewing the very beautiful lady :)
Again these might be subjective and as a newbie, I'm wondering what people's thoughts would be as to what could be more correct?

Photo 3: Is WOW!

Photo 4: is HOLY MOTHER OF WOW! My fav of the series :D



Hey Natskis,

great questions for wendellt, I'm personally thinking these would have been taken straight out of the camera, no post processing ( i have a feeling wendellt is good at both non processing and post processing options).

The floodlight to me actually isn't distracting, it doesnt bother me at all actually.. and to be honest i wouldn't have noticed it unless someone had said so ( thanks natskis, now i'm scarred for life of that image LOOOL)

But all in all, no wonder Wendellt is part of Getty.. he's frikn insane!
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby wendellt on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:26 am

natskis wrote:Hey Wendel,

Your shots of Carnivale are fantastic.
Are all the women on those floats drop dead beautiful with bodies of Victoria Secret Angels?

Shiesa!

Hey, Newbie questions incoming...

Photo 1: Would you crop out that guy in the white/blue jacket?
Personally, he's quite distracting. Anyone else's thoughs on this or cropping procedures such as this?
The girls dress does go into his body but... my question is what would you do in a circumstance like this?

Photo 2: Wow! What a pose, what a smile, what a subject and what an amazing costume!
Small thing, her right hand is streaking.
This is subjective of course, would the shot be better having the shutter firing quicker to eliminate that?
Or is that part and parcel of capturing motion in events? What amount of streaking in action shots is good and bad?

What about the floodlights on the right hand side?
Would there be concideration about taking them out or at least diminishing their brightness?
My eye is lead away to the lights because they're bright after viewing the very beautiful lady :)
Again these might be subjective and as a newbie, I'm wondering what people's thoughts would be as to what could be more correct?

Photo 3: Is WOW!

Photo 4: is HOLY MOTHER OF WOW! My fav of the series :D
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby gstark on Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:01 pm

Nate,

Great questions

And I'd like to see others answer them as well.

For my part ...

natskis wrote:Photo 2: Wow! What a pose, what a smile, what a subject and what an amazing costume!
Small thing, her right hand is streaking.
This is subjective of course, would the shot be better having the shutter firing quicker to eliminate that?
Or is that part and parcel of capturing motion in events? What amount of streaking in action shots is good and bad?

What about the floodlights on the right hand side?
Would there be concideration about taking them out or at least diminishing their brightness?
My eye is lead away to the lights because they're bright after viewing the very beautiful lady :)
Again these might be subjective and as a newbie, I'm wondering what people's thoughts would be as to what could be more correct?


Let's deal with what's "correct" first of all, because that's the easiest: Everything is correct, and nothing is wrong.

The real issue is, as the photographer, what is the message that you're trying to convey with these images? And that leads us back to the rest of your questions.

Yes, using a faster shutter speed would help remove the element of movement, but is that desirable? For the answer, see above. :) For me, Carnivale is all about movement, action, colour, perhaps decadence ... life! And I think that by leaving the element of movement in this image, it is enhanced as a result. using a higher shutter speed may stop that action, but it might also turn your image from a very lively image into one that's static. The end result is the one that you, as the photographer, decide is the one that gives you what you want.

The lights ... again, for me that's a part of the scene, and that's fine. I've seen images where people clone out this sort of thing; that's a valid technique, but it's not the sort of thing that I'd be likely to do. At some point we need to accept that when we're shooting these sorts of images, the backgrounds cannot and will not be clinical and "perfect", whatever that might mean. We need to just learn to deal with it; it is ok.

Again, for this image, I think it helps establish the atmosphere, and that is a large part of what Wendell has captured here.

And you ask what amount of streaking etc is acceptable in an image. I would tend towards the concept of less being better, but where appropriate, some is good. There's no hard and fast rules, and as I said at the start, the concept of "correct" simply does not apply.

If you're the photographer, and you're happy (or your clients on a commercial shoot), then what else matters?
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby wendellt on Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:11 pm

natskis wrote:Hey Wendel,

Your shots of Carnivale are fantastic.
Are all the women on those floats drop dead beautiful with bodies of Victoria Secret Angels?

Yes all the women in RIO are beautiful most of the samba muses(girls who lead the parade and floats are brazillian celebrities and or ex Miss Universe

Shiesa!

Hey, Newbie questions incoming...

Photo 1: Would you crop out that guy in the white/blue jacket?
Personally, he's quite distracting. Anyone else's thoughs on this or cropping procedures such as this?
The girls dress does go into his body but... my question is what would you do in a circumstance like this?

in a press image i just shoot what i see, later when i do my proper edit for my own purposes ill crop out the guy in the blue jacket and make the image cleaner, it was hard getting clean image with so many people on the parade floor from officials to the 40+ photographers

Photo 2: Wow! What a pose, what a smile, what a subject and what an amazing costume!
Small thing, her right hand is streaking.
This is subjective of course, would the shot be better having the shutter firing quicker to eliminate that?
Or is that part and parcel of capturing motion in events? What amount of streaking in action shots is good and bad?

i usually shoot at 160th sec to get some blue as to capture the atmospherics, the samba muse was dancing the samba and moving quite abit hence the blur
in this particular case i think it wsn't intentional as i was just trying to get the shot


What about the floodlights on the right hand side?
Would there be concideration about taking them out or at least diminishing their brightness?
My eye is lead away to the lights because they're bright after viewing the very beautiful lady :)
Again these might be subjective and as a newbie, I'm wondering what people's thoughts would be as to what could be more correct?

for my future edit i would take out the flood lights they are quite distracting, i didnt have time to move position to exclude the floodlights as i was trying to get the shot

Photo 3: Is WOW!

Photo 4: is HOLY MOTHER OF WOW! My fav of the series :D


thankyou for your enthusiastic response its great to hear
and thankyou everyone for the comments it's much appreciated
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby natskis on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:12 pm

Thank you all for your responses to the questions!

Fair call Greg, it is very subjective and dependent on the story that your picture is trying to tell.

I'm just trying to really learn the rules to improve my game :)

i usually shoot at 160th sec to get some blue as to capture the atmospherics, the samba muse was dancing the samba and moving quite abit hence the blur
in this particular case i think it wsn't intentional as i was just trying to get the shot


Wendell, you're in Brazil shooting the hottest party of the year.
You're running around alot and you're shooting fast paced action.

Do you shoot in Manual, TV or AV priorites?
You said that you're trying to shoot at 1/160 but is that on TV settings or Manual?
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby wendellt on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:46 pm

hi

i always shoot in manual. If you remember your settings for certain situations and practice enough shutter and aperture twiddling becomes second nature
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby natskis on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:48 pm

Thanks Wendel!
I'm trying... practicing and practicing :)
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Re: Rio Carnival Day3

Postby zafra52 on Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:16 pm

In a single word...FANTASTIC!
For you, it must have been FUNTASTIC!
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