Attempting a self portrait

Got a thin skin? Then look elsewhere. Post a link to an image that you've made, and invite others to offer their critiques. Honesty is encouraged, but please be positive in your constructive criticism. Flaming and just plain nastiness will not be tolerated. Please note that this is not an area for you to showcase your images, nor is this a place for you to show-off where you have been. This is an area for you to post images so that you may share with us a technique that you have mastered, or are trying to master. Typically, no more than about four images should be posted in any one post or thread, and the maximum size of any side of any image should not exceed 950 px.

Moderators: Greg B, Nnnnsic, Geoff, Glen, gstark, Moderators

Forum rules
Please note that image critiquing is a matter of give and take: if you post images for critique, and you then expect to receive criticism, then it is also reasonable, fair and appropriate that, in return, you post your critique of the images of other members here as a matter of courtesy. So please do offer your critique of the images of others; your opinion is important, and will help everyone here enjoy their visit to far greater extent.

Also please note that, unless you state something to the contrary, other members might attempt to repost your image with their own post processing applied. We see this as an acceptable form of critique, but should you prefer that others not modify your work, this is perfectly ok, and you should state this, either within your post, or within your signature.

Images posted here should conform with the general forum guidelines. Image sizes should not exceed 950 pixels along the largest side (height or width) and typically no more than four images per post or thread.

Please also ensure that you have a meaningful location included in your profile. Please refer to the FAQ for details of what "meaningful" is.

Attempting a self portrait

Postby johnmc on Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:40 pm

Hi All,

been a while since I've been on here... having a play this morning with shooting a self portrait - wow, what a challenge!

Not only being critical of my skills/quality, but also of myself as the subject. Trying to get something a little moody, without going overboard.

Was shot with my 17-40 and bouncing a single speedlite (old 420ez) off a sheet of foamcore.

Open to any suggestions/comments/criticisms :? (click for larger version on flickr)

Image
Canon EOS50D, 17-40mm f4 L USM, 24-105mm f4 L IS USM, 50mm f1.4 USM, 28-80mm f3.5-5.6, 70-300mm f4-5.6 & various other bits ;)
my flickr photostream
User avatar
johnmc
Member
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 11:45 pm
Location: Narre Warren South

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby gstark on Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:01 pm

John,

The lighting is perfect, but I'd pull your hand out of this one. Just have your face, head down a little, but eyes looking straight up into and through the lens.

Or if you want the hand, then palm down, chin resting on the back of the downturned hand.
g.
Gary Stark
Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff
The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
User avatar
gstark
Site Admin
 
Posts: 22918
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: Bondi, NSW

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby Matt. K on Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:09 pm

Some interesting elements in this image....I agree with Gary in that the index finger leads the eye out of the image space....always a bad thing. Also, looking directly into the camera lens will reduce the amount of white in the eyes. The lighting is picking up some nice texture. Keep at it. :D
Regards

Matt. K
User avatar
Matt. K
Former Outstanding Member Of The Year and KM
 
Posts: 9981
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:12 pm
Location: North Nowra

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby johnmc on Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:17 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys... I did take a number of shots sans hand but wasn't as comfortable with them - probably just because they are photos of me ;)

Will have to give it another shot being mindful of your advice - new shots soon I hope :)
Canon EOS50D, 17-40mm f4 L USM, 24-105mm f4 L IS USM, 50mm f1.4 USM, 28-80mm f3.5-5.6, 70-300mm f4-5.6 & various other bits ;)
my flickr photostream
User avatar
johnmc
Member
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 11:45 pm
Location: Narre Warren South

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby chrisk on Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:24 pm

john, i like it. like the crop and the hard light especially. agree about the finger thing.

personally, i would have preferred for there to be more light in your eyes. perhaps having some reflector to bounce some back. to me the eyes arent as alive and engaging as they could be. the bit of light spill onto your ear is also a little distracting. getting that right in camera is difficult i know cos gobo's are the order of the day so i'd cheat and fix that in post by darkening that side. btw: mono conversions also suit this sort of portrait so give that a shot.
EM1 l 7.5 l 12-40 l 14 l 17 l 25 l 45 l 60 l 75 l AW1 l V3
User avatar
chrisk
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3317
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Oyster Bay, Sydney

Attempting a self portrait

Postby Wink on Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:34 pm

I'd also like to see it without the hand. It looks like the same pose as your avatar with the hand included.

Very brave doing a self portrait. I brought a camera to ensure I stay behind it.
Adam.
MY PHOTOS
Allows Image Editing
User avatar
Wink
Senior Member
 
Posts: 911
Joined: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:23 pm
Location: Seymour, VIC

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby johnmc on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:20 pm

Ironically the pose (with hand) does match... It's even the same chair/location... Had actually forgotten about that shot until after I posted the new one on here... Perhaps my subconscious just doesn't like my chin.

I'd prefer to photograph others but often find myself squeezing these shots into "spare time" or being surrounded by cameraphobes lol
Canon EOS50D, 17-40mm f4 L USM, 24-105mm f4 L IS USM, 50mm f1.4 USM, 28-80mm f3.5-5.6, 70-300mm f4-5.6 & various other bits ;)
my flickr photostream
User avatar
johnmc
Member
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 11:45 pm
Location: Narre Warren South

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby zafra52 on Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:07 pm

I agree with the comments above specially with:

The lighting is perfect, but I'd pull your hand out of this one. Just have your face, head down a little, but eyes looking straight up into and through the lens.
Or if you want the hand, then palm down, chin resting on the back of the downturned hand.
User avatar
zafra52
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4827
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:22 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby surenj on Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:10 pm

Nice one.

Unusual position for the key (and only) light! and it works.

Only improvements as it is would be crop out a little headroom on the top.

If you are reattempting, Try a hair light or two. I'd like to see more neck to avoid the dismembered face type of look.

I guess it depends on what feel you are going for... The light from below is usually a little onimous... :wink:
User avatar
surenj
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7197
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:21 pm
Location: Artarmon NSW

Re: Attempting a self portrait

Postby johnmc on Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:42 pm

Thanks surenj,

I'm hoping to have another session (as soon as my "model" has time :lol: )

I'm awaiting delivery of 2 x speedlites - so will be able to look at implementing some light from behind to help define the hair

As for the neck - agree... although in that shot the black t-shirt did have an exceptionally high collar, perhaps a bad choice of wardrobe.
Canon EOS50D, 17-40mm f4 L USM, 24-105mm f4 L IS USM, 50mm f1.4 USM, 28-80mm f3.5-5.6, 70-300mm f4-5.6 & various other bits ;)
my flickr photostream
User avatar
johnmc
Member
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 11:45 pm
Location: Narre Warren South


Return to Image Reviews and Critiques

cron