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Which to keep?I have a problem with these two images of a pair of courting Gentoo Penguins. I really like both shots, but realistically think they are too similar - especially to go in a book of my trip that I'm going to work on next. Over the last 3 months I've kept coming back to them and I'm still ambivalent. Neither is ahead for me.
So I need your help... Which is the stronger image for you, and why? Peter
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Re: Which to keep?well IMO, i like them both and can understand your circumstances in trying to choose one, but if it were me i think I would use both, I think it kinda tells a story and only having one or the other wouldn't tell a full story to me. Well thats my opinion, but i love #2 so cute!!
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Re: Which to keep?#2 is the stronger image for me Peter but #1 is a natural precursor for #2..so why not include both to tell the story..its like a comic strip
Re: Which to keep?I have to agree....I think they would work wonderfully together.
Perhaps a square crop to each and displayed side by side, or one above the other. If I were forced to pick one, I'd have to choose no. 2. Really nice images and kudos on nailing the exposure in such a tough environment (all that snow/ice) with the subject being black & white. With these examples your book is sure to be absolutely fantastic! Dave Dave
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Re: Which to keep?Both of them are fantasic, very slight weighting to #2 but as others have said try to use both.
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Re: Which to keep?Peter,
I'd certainly be inclined to keep both as well. As Dave suggested, a crop may be in order too, but unlike Dave's suggested square crop, I'd like to crop out about two thirds of the foreground at the bottom. g.
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Re: Which to keep?For me, the two images separately aren't as strong as the story told or assumed by the combination of them both.
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Re: Which to keep?i love #2. i like it the way it is with no crop and personally i think it would lose its visual impact if you either cropped tighter or combined the images. the ice presents a perfect natural border and gives the impression of this sign of life in a vast expanse of nothingness. i would love to see this hanging somewhere in a very large size, its a really beautiful image.
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I also agree that both images should be kept, imo the are worlds apart purely based on the primary subject, the gentoos. Crop wise, I see merits in Dave and Garys suggestion and a triptych could well be a winner in eitehr crop. However I would consider a pano style crop with both images in a triptych, one bottom. one top. I think the horizontal space provides enough information to convey the sense of space. gerry's photography journey
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Re: Which to keep?I might be a little different and suggest (if you havnt already planned it out) using the second image as the last shot in the book - it's got that warm leaving end of the story feel. Which would of coursenallow using the other image separately elsewhere.
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Re: Which to keep?You simply have to keep both!
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Re: Which to keep?I would keep the second as it says more to me. Much more.
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Re: Which to keep?both. dyptych. Maybe pano crops each with the birds centered. Then you can put the two pics on top of each other.
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Re: Which to keep?Peter,
both are great but some kind of a crop would be in order. I suspect you may have a third shot of their interaction action, can you put together a triptych? If I had to pick one, I would pick #2 but they do go together to tell a story. André Photography, as a powerful medium of expression and communications, offers an infinite variety of perception, interpretation and execution. Ansel Adams
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Re: Which to keep?I would keep #2 if I could not use both. The second one is more moving when seen with the other one.
Re: Which to keep?Ah Ignore my idea, I've tried it and it doesn't work!
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Actually I would go one step further and use No.1 as the front cover and No.2 as the back cover. The empty space is perfect for titles etc. __________
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Re: Which to keep?I agree with Peter's original assessment that only one of these images is necessary for the project. I'm sure the other one would get a run somewhere else.
That said, I just love #2. The backs of the penguins are solid black, whereas the fronts are white. The black has a better contrast against the snow/ice in the photo. In addition, seeing the male's arm around the female and the way she is leaning towards the male make a more "aww!" feeling than the other, IMHO. Should be a great book! TFF (Trevor)
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good idea gerry's photography journey
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I'd go so far as to say brilliant. g.
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Re: Which to keep?Add another vote for #1 on the front cover and #2 on the back.
Re: Which to keep?For me number two is a much stronger image by far. Thats the one I would keep.
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Re: Which to keep?Absolutely brilliant Stubbsy. Keep both. Maybe a duel view arrangement? ( eg what's the duo version of a triptych, a diptych?)
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