Cordeaux Dam

Got a thin skin? Then look elsewhere. Post a link to an image that you've made, and invite others to offer their critiques. Honesty is encouraged, but please be positive in your constructive criticism. Flaming and just plain nastiness will not be tolerated. Please note that this is not an area for you to showcase your images, nor is this a place for you to show-off where you have been. This is an area for you to post images so that you may share with us a technique that you have mastered, or are trying to master. Typically, no more than about four images should be posted in any one post or thread, and the maximum size of any side of any image should not exceed 950 px.

Moderators: Greg B, Nnnnsic, Geoff, Glen, gstark, Moderators

Forum rules
Please note that image critiquing is a matter of give and take: if you post images for critique, and you then expect to receive criticism, then it is also reasonable, fair and appropriate that, in return, you post your critique of the images of other members here as a matter of courtesy. So please do offer your critique of the images of others; your opinion is important, and will help everyone here enjoy their visit to far greater extent.

Also please note that, unless you state something to the contrary, other members might attempt to repost your image with their own post processing applied. We see this as an acceptable form of critique, but should you prefer that others not modify your work, this is perfectly ok, and you should state this, either within your post, or within your signature.

Images posted here should conform with the general forum guidelines. Image sizes should not exceed 950 pixels along the largest side (height or width) and typically no more than four images per post or thread.

Please also ensure that you have a meaningful location included in your profile. Please refer to the FAQ for details of what "meaningful" is.

Cordeaux Dam

Postby aim54x on Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:40 pm

Here are a few from today's trip. C & C is most appreciated!

The Gate Keepers View
Image

BW IR
Image

False Colour IR
Image

BW IR pano (highlights brought back, dust bunnies removed, converted to TIFF, stitched, D-light, BW conversion in NX2)
Image

BW IR pano (OLD VERSION)
Image
Last edited by aim54x on Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby Mr Darcy on Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:48 am

#1 I think there is too much dark space around your window. While using a window frame to frame a view can work brilliantly, I don't think you have hit the mark here. You need something in the surrounds to give it interest. Otherwise you may as well crop. I would go to just barely outside the outer ochre edge. Get just a little bit of the black. I also get the feeling the whole picture needs to be straightened ever so slightly. It gives me the feeling that the it is sliding to the right.

#2,3,4 I can't really comment on these as I have zero experience in this field, but #3 is the only one that works for me. But then I am partial to panos.
Greg
It's easy to be good... when there is nothing else to do
User avatar
Mr Darcy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3414
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 pm
Location: The somewhat singed and blackened Blue Mountains

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby Remorhaz on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:05 am

#1 - as it happens exactly what Greg said :agree:

of the other three I like the first (and then the last) but I think you could pano crop the bottom and clone out what remains of the bush at the bottom right. NB: other than the tree (and not even it enough) the image doesn't "look" like one of those other world IR's to me - it looks more like a monochrome conversion if you know what I mean...
D600, D7000, Nikon/Sigma/Tamron Lenses, Nikon Flashes, Sirui/Manfrotto/Benro Sticks
Rodney - My Photo Blog
Want: Fast Wide (14|20|24)
User avatar
Remorhaz
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2547
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:14 pm
Location: Sydney - Lower North Shore - D600

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby aim54x on Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:07 am

Mr Darcy wrote:#1 I think there is too much dark space around your window. While using a window frame to frame a view can work brilliantly, I don't think you have hit the mark here. You need something in the surrounds to give it interest. Otherwise you may as well crop. I would go to just barely outside the outer ochre edge. Get just a little bit of the black. I also get the feeling the whole picture needs to be straightened ever so slightly. It gives me the feeling that the it is sliding to the right.

#2,3,4 I can't really comment on these as I have zero experience in this field, but #3 is the only one that works for me. But then I am partial to panos.


Thanks Greg...I think the straighten and crop for #1 is in order...I was thinking that myself. I do suspect that you were referring to #4 when you mentioned the pano preference...which I am pretty happy with.

Remorhaz wrote:#1 - as it happens exactly what Greg said :agree:

of the other three I like the first (and then the last) but I think you could pano crop the bottom and clone out what remains of the bush at the bottom right. NB: other than the tree (and not even it enough) the image doesn't "look" like one of those other world IR's to me - it looks more like a monochrome conversion if you know what I mean...


Thanks Rodney. I actually have to go back in to clone out a bunch of dust bunnies in the pano, so I will have a play with getting rid of the bush as well. I am not looking for an "other world" look in my IR, esp when I do a BW conversion, but I guess I may play a bit more with that if I can source a 665nm filter for my EX1 (it apparently is very IR ready according to some web discussion).
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby Mr Darcy on Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:50 am

Oops yes #4
(#3 of the IRs is my excuse) :oops:
Greg
It's easy to be good... when there is nothing else to do
User avatar
Mr Darcy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3414
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 pm
Location: The somewhat singed and blackened Blue Mountains

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby surenj on Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:55 pm

Hi Cameron,

Just to add to the others.

#1 I don't think the subjectthrough the window is very interesting/ has nice light/ or very discernible etc. Good concept though.

#4 Neat stuff indeed. Get rid of the blown highlights though. To balance this composition, I reckon you need a small element in the left lower...perhaps a little plant in the foregorund to frame the image and keep the viewer interested and centred.


Could I ask what brought you to this location? It looks like it's in the middle of no where. Are there any interesting areas nearby?? :wink:
User avatar
surenj
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7197
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:21 pm
Location: Artarmon NSW

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby aim54x on Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:42 pm

surenj wrote:Just to add to the others.

#1 I don't think the subjectthrough the window is very interesting/ has nice light/ or very discernible etc. Good concept though.

#4 Neat stuff indeed. Get rid of the blown highlights though. To balance this composition, I reckon you need a small element in the left lower...perhaps a little plant in the foregorund to frame the image and keep the viewer interested and centred.

Could I ask what brought you to this location? It looks like it's in the middle of no where. Are there any interesting areas nearby?? :wink:


Thanks Suren. I think I might have to restitch #4 from JPG (that way I can process out the blown highlights)....I guess I will have a shot tonight. I am a bit wary of editing images prior to stitch due to differential exposure concerns though. Maybe I need to install CS5 and try content aware fill on a patch on the LHS :twisted:

As for the location, we were down in Picton taking images of the viaduct down there, then decided to head towards Port Kembla, Cordeaux was a detour that we spotted and proved to be the most photographic area we visited on the day. We will probably go back and try to visit Cataract and Avon as well.
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby zafra52 on Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:27 pm

I quite like the pano.
User avatar
zafra52
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4827
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:22 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby biggerry on Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:58 pm

I reckon with that last pano (s) a tidy crop to remove the boring 30% on the left would go a long way to making this a much stronger composition.
gerry's photography journey
No amount of processing will fix bad composition - trust me i have tried.
User avatar
biggerry
Senior Member
 
Posts: 5930
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 12:40 am
Location: Under the flight path, Newtown, Sydney

Re: Cordeaux Dam

Postby aim54x on Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:50 am

biggerry wrote:I reckon with that last pano (s) a tidy crop to remove the boring 30% on the left would go a long way to making this a much stronger composition.


I was waiting to see if anyone would recommend a crop.....I have played with cropping variations including both LHS and RHS but was waiting to see if anyone had guidance as I had trouble deciding which crop. your suggestion is promising.
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney


Return to Image Reviews and Critiques