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Postby Charlie Chalk on Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:06 am

...shoots at a higher ISO one day in darkish enviroments, then goes out the following day in daylight and forgets to change the ISO to something more suitable?

I did it again at the weekend, shot some pictures of the kids in the house (no flash, ISO 640) then went out in the afternoon to take some pictures of the quayside, daylight overcast, idea ISO 200 - but not for me, no sir, good old ISO 640 all the way!

Please tell me I'm not the only one...

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Postby kipper on Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:12 am

You're not the only one my friend. I sometimes wish there was an idiot proof way of reminding the user that they have it on the wrong ISO. For instance they have Auto or Manual ISO. If the Auto is that good they could have an advisory option where if the camera thinks you have the wrong ISO it will say on the LCD screen "Advise changing ISO. The one being used appears incorrect.". Of course it'd be annoying for this to pop up all the time so you could have an option to accept, snooze or dismiss. Or something like this. :evil:
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Postby JordanP on Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:13 am

you are not the only one - I've done that at least 4 times.
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:19 am

I did it a few minutes ago when shooting the box. :lol:
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Postby MHD on Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:21 am

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Postby xorl on Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:07 pm

kipper, you're giving me nightmares about seeing clippy reincarnated on the D70: "I think you may have your ISO set too high, would you like me to change it for you? Are you sure you want to take this picture? Really?"
*shudder*. :)

It would be good if the current ISO was displayed on the top panel.. Another one for the wishlist I guess..

Btw if you're not sure what state the camera is in after tweaking all the EV/Flash/WB settings etc, you can do a quick reset (look for the green dots on the body). I find it can be useful after adjusting everything to get the shot I want. Unfortunately it also resets the Quality to Large/Normal, and from memory it also whacks your Custom Optimize settings (sharpness etc..) - not too big a deal if you shoot NEF tho'. The manual lists everything that gets reset (custom functions are untouched). Sometimes its quicker to reset everything to a known state than try to remember/work out everything you changed :) .
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Re: Am I the only one that...

Postby Gordon on Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:09 pm

Charlie Chalk wrote:...shoots at a higher ISO one day in darkish enviroments, then goes out the following day in daylight and forgets to change the ISO to something more suitable?
...
Please tell me I'm not the only one...
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nope, I've done it too many times, taking astrophotos at night on 640 or 800, then landscapes the next day.
Lately I've become an obsessive ISO checker and have managed to avoid high ISOs in daylight.

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Postby Manta on Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:17 am

Though I don't usually have wide extremes in my settings, I approach this the same way I approach Photoshop - I "Reset All Tools" after each session. This serves two purposes: 1. I know I'm starting with the same settings each time and 2. If my wife or kids pick up the camera I know everything is set for them to take a general photo without them having to fiddle with too much.
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Postby leek on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:57 pm

I'd just conquered the ISO problem and now I've found a new one...

After a couple of weeks of taking mostly cr&p photos and wondering why, I just realised that my metering had been set to centre weighted with an area of 6mm :? Fine for portraits, but not so good for landscapes and nature...

I took many photos of the tall ships yesterday and many photos of birds today and only a few of them came out OK... Now I know why...

Another one for you to all look out for :lol:
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Postby BBJ on Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:01 pm

Nope, LOL i lost a days pics at a ride day at the track for that very reason.
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Postby Greg B on Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:03 pm

Me too Charlie.

In my view, this is one of the (few) things about the d70 which disappoints me - I would like to see the ISO displayed in the viewfinder.

In Auto ISO mode, which I never use for this very reason, it would have made the mode more usable if the ISO was displayed instead of the flashing thingy which means, the camera has changed the ISO but we're not telling you the number to which it has been changed.

There are not too many shortcomings on the d70, but they stuffed up on this one.
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Postby christiand on Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:03 pm

Hi CC,

I've done exactly the same.
I actually did it the night before the Tall Ships sailing in company.
How stupid is that ?
Oh well, I'm just as bad as and will continue to ...

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Postby marcus on Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:18 pm

Yep did it on the weekend. And actually spoke to a fellow D70 owner TODAY about the problem. Good news is HE'S DONE IT TOO!!

When your shooting outside its so hard to tell in the display screen that there's anything wrong. If you had a darkroom handy you could possibly look at the monitor and think hmmm something wrong here. But because you basically can't see the thing in daylight you have no idea. Very frustrating.
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:21 pm

I must be the odd one out - has never happened to me :D
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Postby gstark on Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:22 pm

But is it any worse than using film, whereby you have to wait until you see your prints - perhaps weeks later - before you realised that you completely stuffed up?
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Postby dooda on Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:49 am

It's almost as bad because you can't see the noise on the LCD. Nice thing is you didn't just pay the bastard behind the counter for the prints. I've done this and much worse. The other day I was taking pictures of this waterfall. I couldn't get the damn thing from blowing the highlights completely. -1.7 Exp bias and still the same. I went all the way to -5, spot metering and everything before I checked the command dial and saw that my brother had been using it in manual, 1/15 of a second shutter. Oops. Took me 6 shots before I got that one right. A more common prob for me is to leave exp bias on.
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Postby MATT on Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:25 am

dooda, I ahve similar problem. Exposure bias, though I take few shoots and fully blown. check the biase and it will be like +3.???

I think thats ood I usuall dont chnge it much. Sometimes I feel the camera has mind of its own and sets it to anything.

The other problem I have is the Wife. She has only very basic knowledge of the camera. The other day she took some shots of my girls dress up for school. Only one was in focus- odd I thought- and she complained.

Found I had the lense in fully manual--oops.


Good to see though that everone forgets something sometimes

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Postby Hlop on Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:19 am

Aw! I see people are changing ISO here! Actually I changed it once to 800 a while ago. But believe me if I'll change ISO settings continously I'll forget to return them back to normal/usual. It applies to any settings :)
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Postby Mal on Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:42 am

I have found that if I can work on my obsessive compolsive disorder a little more then I should always remeber to return the settings back to normal (whatever that is) after each shoot. This has at least stopped me having the wrong ISO setting, as far as other settings go........
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Postby gstark on Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:22 am

Mal,

Mal wrote:I have found that if I can work on my obsessive compolsive disorder a little more


Remember to wash your hands before and after changing the settings, and always be sure to only make those changes in a very securely locked room.

Four locks is good; seven is better. :)
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Postby stubbsy on Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:24 am

gstark wrote:Mal,

Mal wrote:I have found that if I can work on my obsessive compolsive disorder a little more


Remember to wash your hands before and after changing the settings, and always be sure to only make those changes in a very securely locked room.

Four locks is good; seven is better. :)

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Postby gstark on Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:27 am

stubbsy wrote:Gary - wicked, wicked man :lol:


Guilty as charged. :)
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