A newbies view of clovelly sunrise

[M Allen T]

These shots were taken at Clovelly at sunrise on the 25th. It was a good morning, However, no clouds until I was on the way home.
Being the newbie I was happy to meet Gerry and Rodney on the morning and was interested to see how and where they set up for their shots. For me it was a valuable learning experience and a fully enjoyable morning shoot.

http://www.pbase.com/martin63/seascape

http://www.pbase.com/martin63/seascape

http://www.pbase.com/martin63/seascape

Thanks for the invite and looking forward to attending another shoot soon.

[surenj]

If you are any sort of newbie that you claim to be, these are very good indeed! A bit of adjustment here and there and BAM, you have a printable picture.

[Reschsmooth]

Very nice images.

[aim54x]

Very nice stuff there Martin!

[Remorhaz]

Nice work Martin - great to meet you (and your family)

[biggerry]

can peeps see these?

[aim54x]

Definitely can see those Gerry!

[surenj]

Thanks Gerry.

Martin, these look a little un-processed (ie almost like RAW output). Have you done any processing?? If not, I'd like to have a go at the RAW of the last image.

[ozimax]

Very nice. The moving water is well rendered. I understand you have to get up fairly early to catch the sunrise, or at least that's the rumour!

[Matt. K]

The images are good and tick all the right boxes. They need a touch more aggresive processing.....make brighter and punch up the contrast, but definetly in the ballpark for composition and technique. I'm impressed.

[M Allen T]

Thanks guys.

Sorry for the issues getting the shots up on the forum, but the issue is now sorted.

Thanks for the comments and advice. I intend to re-visit the RAW files and have a go at being more aggressive with some of the setting to see how they turn out.

As a point of interest.
The issue I was having posting the images was created when I tried to post the URL.
using a MacBook, I can't right mouse click and select properties. (this caused me no end of confusion)
I have to right click and select "copy image address" (only discovered through trial and error....with the errors posted on the forum)
Once copied and pasted to the forum page, there is no need to type "jpg" at the end of the URL. (because this causes issues)
All I had to do then was press the lmg button.

It may seem simple now, However, to someone with the computer skills of a burnt match, it was quite a task.

Regards Martin

[Mj]

Got there in the end and with some of the processing suggested these should be images to be proud of.

[biggerry]

Hey Martin, sorry I just linked your images and ran

I reckon all three have solid compositions and there is not much to fault in that department, even the water movement is quite good, better than what I got I have to say as well.

I think, as mentioned, a revisit of the processing maybe in order. Its the first time ever I have seen MattK advocate for some aggressive processing

Processing is very much a personal thing in alot of regards and depending on personal taste and also software used a different result can be achieved.

I took, what i perceive as the strongest image from the bunch and whacked it over the head with a quick 25.25 second (yep i measured it ) processing just to give you some ideas for your processing.

Please let me know if you want your image removed or not edited

Also, great to meet you on the weekend.

[M Allen T]

Hey Martin, sorry I just linked your images and ran

I reckon all three have solid compositions and there is not much to fault in that department, even the water movement is quite good, better than what I got I have to say as well.

I think, as mentioned, a revisit of the processing maybe in order. Its the first time ever I have seen MattK advocate for some aggressive processing

Processing is very much a personal thing in alot of regards and depending on personal taste and also software used a different result can be achieved.

I took, what i perceive as the strongest image from the bunch and whacked it over the head with a quick 25.25 second (yep i measured it ) processing just to give you some ideas for your processing.

Please let me know if you want your image removed or not edited

Also, great to meet you on the weekend.

G,Day Gerry.
I'm still learning, so it's "no blood no fowl" if more experienced forum members want to share there knowledge and experience with me.
Happy with the way you processed the image. Gives me a "heads up" (typical military saying) on the potential of my shots and what they can look like with the right knowledge and more experience. I just need to get comfortable with processing more aggressively. I'm used to treading softly in that department for fear of over processing. Am I right in saying you used a bit of selective contrast on the rocks and green weed at the back and sharpening on the rocks in the foreground.

Happy to receive all the advice and guidance your wiling to provide.

Regards Martin

[biggerry]

Am I right in saying you used a bit of selective contrast on the rocks and green weed at the back and sharpening on the rocks in the foreground.

the basic steps I used were, and these are pretty well software independent to an extent

1) lightened teh shadows, can be achieved with levels and curves adjustment
2) selectively brightened and increased the vibrancy (or saturation/brillance) to the green weed/moss
3) Added some tonal contrast (or clarity for lightroom users) to the rocks and moss/weed to improve teh sharpness
4) added a graduated neutral filter over the sky
5) added vignetting primarily to teh top corners
6) pushed the contrast
7) pushed the brillance/vibrancy/saturation

It may seem like alot of steps but they are essentially a large number of small tweaks - less is often more

I'm used to treading softly in that department for fear of over processing

smart move, better to be advised to process more than to be advised to dial back the processing!

[M Allen T]

Am I right in saying you used a bit of selective contrast on the rocks and green weed at the back and sharpening on the rocks in the foreground.

the basic steps I used were, and these are pretty well software independent to an extent

1) lightened teh shadows, can be achieved with levels and curves adjustment
2) selectively brightened and increased the vibrancy (or saturation/brillance) to the green weed/moss
3) Added some tonal contrast (or clarity for lightroom users) to the rocks and moss/weed to improve teh sharpness
4) added a graduated neutral filter over the sky
5) added vignetting primarily to teh top corners
6) pushed the contrast
7) pushed the brillance/vibrancy/saturation

It may seem like alot of steps but they are essentially a large number of small tweaks - less is often more

I'm used to treading softly in that department for fear of over processing

smart move, better to be advised to process more than to be advised to dial back the processing!

G,Day Gerry.
I'll give this a try with my next shoot.

Regards Martin