The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Got a thin skin? Then look elsewhere. Post a link to an image that you've made, and invite others to offer their critiques. Honesty is encouraged, but please be positive in your constructive criticism. Flaming and just plain nastiness will not be tolerated. Please note that this is not an area for you to showcase your images, nor is this a place for you to show-off where you have been. This is an area for you to post images so that you may share with us a technique that you have mastered, or are trying to master. Typically, no more than about four images should be posted in any one post or thread, and the maximum size of any side of any image should not exceed 950 px.

Moderators: Greg B, Nnnnsic, Geoff, Glen, gstark, Moderators

Forum rules
Please note that image critiquing is a matter of give and take: if you post images for critique, and you then expect to receive criticism, then it is also reasonable, fair and appropriate that, in return, you post your critique of the images of other members here as a matter of courtesy. So please do offer your critique of the images of others; your opinion is important, and will help everyone here enjoy their visit to far greater extent.

Also please note that, unless you state something to the contrary, other members might attempt to repost your image with their own post processing applied. We see this as an acceptable form of critique, but should you prefer that others not modify your work, this is perfectly ok, and you should state this, either within your post, or within your signature.

Images posted here should conform with the general forum guidelines. Image sizes should not exceed 950 pixels along the largest side (height or width) and typically no more than four images per post or thread.

Please also ensure that you have a meaningful location included in your profile. Please refer to the FAQ for details of what "meaningful" is.

The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:23 pm

I went into Brisbane CBD yesterday with the X-E1. Some strange things happening with Auto ISO settings, a little erratic perhaps? I had the camera set to AUTO 6400 (because you can :D ) and shooting in AE mode. I can understand the settings used for 'The Gallery' and 'The Writer' but 'The Restaurant' settings seem strange. I would have thought that the shutter speed would go much lower before pushing the ISO up to 800?

I cant find in the Fuji menu, where the user can specify the minimum shutter speed before the ISO is pushed, as you can with the Nikon system.

The Gallery (55mm, 1/30s, f4, ISO 1000)
Image

The Writer (18mm, 1/30s, f3.2, ISO 2500)
Image

The Restaurant (21.4mm, 1/480s, f3.2, ISO800)
Image
Fuji X-Pro1 | X-E1 | X-T1 | XF14 | XF23 | XF27 | XF35 | XF56 | XF60 | XF10-24 | XF18-55 | XF55-200 | MCEX-11

http://gmarshall.zenfolio.com

http://xtographer.weebly.com
User avatar
Geoff M
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1225
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:54 pm
Location: Tamborine Mountain QLD.

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby chrisk on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:28 pm

love the first 2 geoff. they are fantastic !

as for the iso setting; unfortuantely this is a fuji issue. erratic is too nice a word, its bloody retarded. and there is no ability to set a minimum shutter speed for auto iso either.
my workaround is that i shoot in manual with auto iso on. its far more reliable like that but you just have to be careful about changing conditions. aternately, i shoot with it it shutter priority and again, it seems to be more logical than in aperture priority which was all over the place.
EM1 l 7.5 l 12-40 l 14 l 17 l 25 l 45 l 60 l 75 l AW1 l V3
User avatar
chrisk
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3317
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Oyster Bay, Sydney

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Thanks Chris.

Maybe a firmware update will address the short sighted ISO issue? There was supposed to be a firmware update released in the the past few days, but it never happened.
Fuji X-Pro1 | X-E1 | X-T1 | XF14 | XF23 | XF27 | XF35 | XF56 | XF60 | XF10-24 | XF18-55 | XF55-200 | MCEX-11

http://gmarshall.zenfolio.com

http://xtographer.weebly.com
User avatar
Geoff M
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1225
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:54 pm
Location: Tamborine Mountain QLD.

The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby chrisk on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:39 pm

I read somewhere it was unlikely to be addressed via firmware as it would need to be a new menu option as opposed to tweaking an existing setting. Don't know how true that is. I have yet to read any reviews of whether the x100s has the minimum shutter option.

I also don't like the fact you can't assign the function button to metering. That is again a very shortsighted and illogical decision.
EM1 l 7.5 l 12-40 l 14 l 17 l 25 l 45 l 60 l 75 l AW1 l V3
User avatar
chrisk
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3317
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Oyster Bay, Sydney

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Matt. K on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:48 pm

Despite your problems with the auto ISO....these images are as fine as any I have seen from a DSLR....and this from a small body camera. The camera and the lens have delivered IQ that is good enough to meet most professional needs. The Fuji is a damned fine camera.
Regards

Matt. K
User avatar
Matt. K
Former Outstanding Member Of The Year and KM
 
Posts: 9981
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:12 pm
Location: North Nowra

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby zafra52 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:29 pm

Very nice shots. I like the 2nd best.
User avatar
zafra52
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4827
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:22 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby aim54x on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:30 am

:agree: but it could do with a closer crop
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Remorhaz on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:06 am

aim54x wrote::agree: but it could do with a closer crop


I double agree :)
D600, D7000, Nikon/Sigma/Tamron Lenses, Nikon Flashes, Sirui/Manfrotto/Benro Sticks
Rodney - My Photo Blog
Want: Fast Wide (14|20|24)
User avatar
Remorhaz
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2547
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:14 pm
Location: Sydney - Lower North Shore - D600

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby gstark on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:33 am

Remorhaz wrote:
aim54x wrote::agree: but it could do with a closer crop


I double agree :)


I'm going to go the other way.

Writing is often a lonely task, and often done by one person, on their own. A wider viewpoint might help to emphasise this aspect.
g.
Gary Stark
Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff
The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
User avatar
gstark
Site Admin
 
Posts: 22918
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: Bondi, NSW

The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:01 pm

I did try other tighter crops following the suggestions, but I am not happy with the outcome and prefer the image 'as is'. Thanks for the comments and thoughts though.
Fuji X-Pro1 | X-E1 | X-T1 | XF14 | XF23 | XF27 | XF35 | XF56 | XF60 | XF10-24 | XF18-55 | XF55-200 | MCEX-11

http://gmarshall.zenfolio.com

http://xtographer.weebly.com
User avatar
Geoff M
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1225
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:54 pm
Location: Tamborine Mountain QLD.

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby photohiker on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:31 pm

I'm liking the writer best of these. Captures the detachment and involvement nicely.

Auto ISO might be fixed, or might not. It's a bit strange because the X100 has the adjustable settings but they left it off the interchangeable lens cameras. Pretty sure they would announce it as a feature, so I'd guess it isn't in the upcoming firmware, which is apparently delayed because of a sensor artefact at 27-30mm on the zoom. There's a thread at that horrible place about it.

Re AutoIso on the X100S, it appears to retain the minimum shutter speed selection. Shown on the Fujiguys X100S preview Video at about 7 minutes.
photohiker
Senior Member
 
Posts: 687
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:56 am
Location: Burnside, South Australia.

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Mj on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 pm

A tighter crop on the writer would lose all context... please leave it as is.

There are a number of issues I find with the current crop of Fuji CSC's some of which will clearly be fixed in the next generation (based on what they are providing with the x100s and x20 I would expect the x-e2 will be better sorted).
Don't expect them to deal with this with firmware improvements... it's more likely to be used to drive us all toward upgrade.

In the meantime I intend to enjoy my x-e1 for what it it is... and for the most part use it fully manual and suffer the AF as is when I fall back to using it.
Photography is not a crime, but perhaps my abuse of artistic license is?
User avatar
Mj
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1048
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:37 pm
Location: Breakfast Point, Sydney {Australia}

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Matt. K on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:43 pm

Congratulations on POTW! Well deserved. However...after looking at the image for awhile I believe the it needs to be cropped to remove the light on the right hand side, which detracts from the main subject. That, anyway, is my opinion. :D
Regards

Matt. K
User avatar
Matt. K
Former Outstanding Member Of The Year and KM
 
Posts: 9981
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:12 pm
Location: North Nowra

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:52 pm

Matt. K wrote:Congratulations on POTW! Well deserved. However...after looking at the image for awhile I believe the it needs to be cropped to remove the light on the right hand side, which detracts from the main subject. That, anyway, is my opinion. :D


Thanks Matt. OK here is a crop based on your suggestion, whats the general consensus now? Better, worse or indifferent?

Image
Fuji X-Pro1 | X-E1 | X-T1 | XF14 | XF23 | XF27 | XF35 | XF56 | XF60 | XF10-24 | XF18-55 | XF55-200 | MCEX-11

http://gmarshall.zenfolio.com

http://xtographer.weebly.com
User avatar
Geoff M
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1225
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:54 pm
Location: Tamborine Mountain QLD.

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby photohiker on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:11 am

Too much of a heavy crop for me, prefer the original. Perhaps crop just inside the light.
photohiker
Senior Member
 
Posts: 687
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:56 am
Location: Burnside, South Australia.

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby aim54x on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:44 am

I would have traded some of what you have cropped off the bottom for some of the space up top. At the moment the truncation of her legs is annoying
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby chrisk on Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:31 pm

original for me.
EM1 l 7.5 l 12-40 l 14 l 17 l 25 l 45 l 60 l 75 l AW1 l V3
User avatar
chrisk
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3317
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Oyster Bay, Sydney

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby gstark on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:13 pm

aim54x wrote:I would have traded some of what you have cropped off the bottom for some of the space up top. At the moment the truncation of her legs is annoying


:agree:
g.
Gary Stark
Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff
The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
User avatar
gstark
Site Admin
 
Posts: 22918
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: Bondi, NSW

Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Matt. K on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:32 pm

A bit too much crop. Try just cutting out that right hand light but leave the rest.
Regards

Matt. K
User avatar
Matt. K
Former Outstanding Member Of The Year and KM
 
Posts: 9981
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:12 pm
Location: North Nowra

The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:05 pm

I wanted to keep the same aspect ratio. Personally, and as already stated, I still prefer the crop of the originally posted version but It's good to explore the alternatives.
Fuji X-Pro1 | X-E1 | X-T1 | XF14 | XF23 | XF27 | XF35 | XF56 | XF60 | XF10-24 | XF18-55 | XF55-200 | MCEX-11

http://gmarshall.zenfolio.com

http://xtographer.weebly.com
User avatar
Geoff M
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1225
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:54 pm
Location: Tamborine Mountain QLD.


Return to Image Reviews and Critiques

cron