Old Shipyard........

[flipfrog]

[the foto fanatic]

Nice work (as usual) Dee.

The one that I like most is #3 - it gives me that optimistic feeling that the grass is greener (or the sky bluer!) on the other side.

#2 is also OK - I really like that little tuft of grass in the foreground, but the rest is slightly uninteresting. Maybe there needs to be an open door, or a cat or a person...?

I'm afraid I'm not so fussed on the first one. The DOF is a tad too shallow, or the shot is too wide, and there is an OOF white blob in the background.

Please remember, any critique is only IMHO, and is meant to give constructive feedback, not gratuitous criticism.

[flipfrog]

yeah, the chain one never really did it for me either...

the funnee thing is, the 3rd pic is actually titled "from the outside looking in"....which it literally was. Try to figure that one out...

[kipper]

Is the 3rd one photoshopped?

Looks like a new sky job.

[flipfrog]

Is the 3rd one photoshopped?

no.
well not really....

i metered off the sky, then only the door was desated a bit....

[big pix]

great pix;s......... but with everything in life they can be improved, if you look at a lot of art photographers work they tend to use a lot of contrast to make an image stand out, and some use hard croping, give it a go on your chain pix and re post

cheers Big Pix

[sirhc55]

Dee - you continue to impress from far away - no wonder you were the first POTW -

[pippin88]

I like them all.

Agree that the door being slightly open or something in no 2 would improve it.

I like the first one, but I think if the bit of the chain foremost in the foreground was in focus it would improve it. So that it didn't go OOF -> In focus -> OOF, but In focus -> OOF. You could achieve this to some extent with a crop.

[hedge]

Love the first one except for the white blob. Would be interesting to see it as Pippin suggests, or the same but with slightly deeper DOF but still love it as is!

adam

[stormygirl]

I actually really like all these pics! But I think that is my taste. I love pics of old rusty or peeling paint, weathered things (pity there are none around Chadstone...).

I agree with the guys about the DOF in the 1st one, it's a little shallow, and by increasing it, it may lead your eye more into the picture.

I actually wouldn't really want to see the door open on the 2nd one, or a cat or person, as I think it may make it too cliche, or set up. But that is my 2 cents worth! Well done...you are inspiring me, I just need time!

[Mal]

One and Three get my vote. What is it with the white blob! It is a padlock! Well i think it is! I like the title for number three. Made me go back and look at it again.

[big pix]

Where are the rules that govern depth of field, and focus point, what pleases one person will not please another, what is written in various books by professional photographers are guides to achieve a better image. Some people like it some people don't. It is up to the creator of the image to decide what works and what does not, and yes most images can be improved but there are no set rules only guides

big pix

[the foto fanatic]

Where are the rules that govern depth of field, and focus point, what pleases one person will not please another, what is written in various books by professional photographers are guides to achieve a better image. Some people like it some people don't. It is up to the creator of the image to decide what works and what does not, and yes most images can be improved but there are no set rules only guides

big pix

Of course. When it comes to artistic expression:
- there are no rules
- it is very subjective to the viewer
but the resultant feedback probably helps the artist (photographer) decide what works and what doesn't.

[stubbsy]

Where are the rules that govern depth of field, and focus point, what pleases one person will not please another, what is written in various books by professional photographers are guides to achieve a better image. Some people like it some people don't. It is up to the creator of the image to decide what works and what does not, and yes most images can be improved but there are no set rules only guides

big pix

Big pix you're absolutely right, there are no rules, but there are useful guidelines which we can choose to follow or not follow. Sometimes the guidlines help get a better shot, sometimes not.

From my perspective I actively encourage people to give me feedback on my images both good (it's nice to have the ego stroked ) and bad (constructive criticism helps us improve). While I take photos to please myself it's a bonus if they also please others. To that end I find value in the perspective of others on my work.

If someone suggests I make a change I may or may not try it, but my expereince as a relative novice is that on many occasions suggested changes have either improved an existing image or helped get a better image under similar circumstances later

From your other posts and the high quality of your work it's evident you have heaps of experience. I hope that I can benefit from that via comments you make on posts by myself and others here.

Cheers

[big pix]

Peter thank-you, I try to be constructive with my comments but I tend to, without being too critical, to be a bit blunt. I do not judge but try to offer an option of what or how to improve an image. The members of this forum do fantastic work, there are some great images on the various web sites. Sorry if I offend some of the members with what I comment.

Big Pix

[Sean]

Hi Flipfrog,
Great photos, and theme too - very inspiring, I like the first one and think dispite the narrow DOF feel it works well given the subject.

I also think that in the future I will try to replicate the composition and DOF and also use something like an insect right in the small DOF.
It would give an additional bang to the focal point once discovered by the eyes finding balance between the blurs.

On another note I had a look at your website too - great stuff there too, I must admit though - I got abit lost with what was yours and who owned what in the end and got out of there.

If you have ever thought of getting your own site and domain name I can suggest http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/ very cheap and easy online tools.

Keep up the great work mate

Regards

Sean

[Neeper]

nice work as usual. I always like seeing your photos.

[dooda]

I personally think that most rules are better followed than broken; and some are a little hasty in breaking them, I know I'm sometimes that way, because it rules to be the one breaking...ahem...the rules. When I binge on breaking them I get home and wish I hadn't most of the time. Not to say that Dee did any of this, I do sort of long for some more Depth of field in some of your shots, but don't truly know if that would necessarily do the shot some good. It is difficult to know what Apeture will give you the right DOF. I know that I don't know so if I want it really shallow I tend to go wide open, when perhaps it is overkill.

All are very nice though. Aside from DOF I think

[gstark]

Peter thank-you, I try to be constructive with my comments but I tend to, without being too critical, to be a bit blunt. I do not judge but try to offer an option of what or how to improve an image. The members of this forum do fantastic work, there are some great images on the various web sites. Sorry if I offend some of the members with what I comment.

People need to understand and accept that there's a difference between criticising one's work, and criticising the person.

The former is actively encouraged here, especially when it's done in a positive way.

The latter is simply not acceptable at all, and on the rare occassions that we see it, the mods deal with it in a prompt and appropriate manner.

Any questions, please feel free to ask myself or one of the mods.