02 Apr 2005 - Mini Meet, Birddog's

[W00DY]

Who plans on attending the Mini Meet this weekend at Birdy's???

I will bring along my Manfrotto MagFiber legs for members to have a look out (only opened the box yesterday).

If anyone plans to attend and also has the Markins M-10 ball head could you please bring it along so I can check one out before I decide on which head to buy.

Birdy has the Acratech ultimate ball head but not the Markins M-10.

Cheers,

W00DY

[Matt. K]

Woody
Look forward to seeing those legs.

Please take this in context.

[sirhc55]

I’ll be there - my first mini meet although not my first visit to Mr Birddog’s

[Matt. K]

Look forward to meeting you Mr sirhc55! (You are a man I presume). Can't be sure with what's been happening on this forum.

[christiand]

Is anybody from CBR going to the mini meet ?

Cheers
CD

[MHD]

Nah... Sorry CD!

Next trip down is a while away sorry!

[Nnnnsic]

I will not be there... which is a shame because I was hoping to meet you Chris. Alas, I have to work.

[Onyx]

Those legs are dead sexy Woody. Sorry, but I had a lil' peep and fondled them while they were passing by this way. Three sided tubes I presume for extra strength, a built in carry handle (which the Gitzo's don't offer) that also velcro converts into the weight hanger-offer in use, plus quick adjust leg angles, much easier and less fiddly than the other brand.

[birddog114]

Who plans on attending the Mini Meet this weekend at Birdy's???

I will bring along my Manfrotto MagFiber legs for members to have a look out (only opened the box yesterday).

If anyone plans to attend and also has the Markins M-10 ball head could you please bring it along so I can check one out before I decide on which head to buy.

Birdy has the Acratech ultimate ball head but not the Markins M-10.

Cheers,

W00DY

The meet could not be happened Yes, not very happy atm.

[huynhie]

Who plans on attending the Mini Meet this weekend at Birdy's???

I will bring along my Manfrotto MagFiber legs for members to have a look out (only opened the box yesterday).

If anyone plans to attend and also has the Markins M-10 ball head could you please bring it along so I can check one out before I decide on which head to buy.

Birdy has the Acratech ultimate ball head but not the Markins M-10.

Cheers,

W00DY

The meet could not be happened Yes, not very happy atm.

I guess you are back to being happy again Birddog


and the meet is back on

[birddog114]

Well, as mentioned in another thread! I always maintain my supports to all forum members!.
The meets now today turn into family & friends social gathering and it's dedicated to our hobby and comradery I can't miss it.

[sirhc55]

Matt. K - last time I looked I was most certainly a male

Leigh - I will see you at the Canon Anniversay dinner in August

[Nnnnsic]

You're going to? Shit. I didn't think anyone knew about my Canon Press Pass...

[W00DY]

Well, as mentioned in another thread! I always maintain my supports to all forum members!.
The meets now today turn into family & friends social gathering and it's dedicated to our hobby and comradery I can't miss it.

Birdy,

I was going to PM you and suggest that we all just meet up as friends and photog enthusiasts

Let's sit back and wait untill 12 o'clock and see if this nightmare goes away.

[huynhie]

How about we call it the D70s user group meet

[Nnnnsic]

Can we make "s" decals to add to the D70?

We can call them update packs.

[huynhie]

You'll also require a velcro "s" for the polo shirts

[Nnnnsic]

They're collectors items anyway with the DSLR replacing D70.

[birddog114]

Well, as mentioned in another thread! I always maintain my supports to all forum members!.
The meets now today turn into family & friends social gathering and it's dedicated to our hobby and comradery I can't miss it.

Birdy,

I was going to PM you and suggest that we all just meet up as friends and photog enthusiasts

Let's sit back and wait untill 12 o'clock and see if this nightmare goes away.

Woody,
What's the PM for?
If it was the case then no more meet at my base exist! cos I don't like the way it's (pretending it's true not fool) I use Maxwell as my tool of trade or same as "how people use lemon or lime" what's happenned to/after the last drop of juice?you imagine! They use their resellers or agent the same method, no difference.
I can sit together with those people either friends or foes but never paying my respects to them nor accepting any "favour" from them.
I provide the meets cos I love this forums, all my friends come along and I shared/ received with/ from them all the love, the friendships, the comraderies
The only thing make me nervous and discomfy about "The Betrayal" which I learned many times in my life and recently.

[W00DY]

Woody
Look forward to seeing those legs.

Please take this in context.

Anytime you want to see my legs just call

I will be there early and need to leave no later than 11am (wife plays netball in the afternoon) so anyone that wants to see my legs try and get there before 11am

[W00DY]

Woody,
What's the PM for?
If it was the case then no more meet at my base exist! cos I don't like the way it's (pretending it's true not fool) I use Maxwell as my tool of trade or same as "how people use lemon or lime" what's happenned to/after the last drop of juice?you imagine! They use their resellers or agent the same method, no difference.
I can sit together with those people either friends or foes but never paying my respects to them nor accepting any "favour" from them.
I provide the meets cos I love this forums, all my friends come along and I shared/ received with/ from them all the love, the friendships, the comraderies
The only thing make me nervous and discomfy about "The Betrayal" which I learned many times in my life and recently.

True, true...

Seeya tomorrow

[birddog114]

Woody
Look forward to seeing those legs.

Please take this in context.

Anytime you want to see my legs just call

Matt.K
This turns into another Mic or Marcus's threads:lol:

[W00DY]

Woody
Look forward to seeing those legs.

Please take this in context.

Anytime you want to see my legs just call

Matt.K
This turns into another Mic or Marcus's threads:lol:

[W00DY]

Those legs are dead sexy Woody. Sorry, but I had a lil' peep and fondled them while they were passing by this way. Three sided tubes I presume for extra strength, a built in carry handle (which the Gitzo's don't offer) that also velcro converts into the weight hanger-offer in use, plus quick adjust leg angles, much easier and less fiddly than the other brand.

Yeah they are nice, I especially like the locks on the legs, they seem very easy to open and close.

I have not had a real good play with them yet (since I don't have a head) but I am sure it will get a work out at Birdy's tomorrow.

Looking forward to jumping on the tripod and head bandwagon

W00DY

[birddog114]

I can see the Man. legs you have is less value and quality than the G 1227 and equal to the Man. 550B but it's CF rather than AL.
I don't know if there's any heads will suitable, perhaps a funky Manfrotto head will do the job for it.
The real ball head and associated equipment will cost you two or three times of what you paid for the legs and it's not worth it to try on any ballhead.
I visited Vanbar and saw it for $525.00 but can get it down to $500.00 locally. Not worth to buy from O/S for AU$450.00.

[W00DY]

I can see the Man. legs you have is less value and quality than the G 1227 and equal to the Man. 550B but it's CF rather than AL.
I don't know if there's any heads will suitable, perhaps a funky Manfrotto head will do the job for it.
The real ball head and associated equipment will cost you two or three times of what you paid for the legs and it's not worth it to try on any ballhead.
I visited Vanbar and saw it for $525.00 but can get it down to $500.00 locally. Not worth to buy from O/S for AU$450.00.

Why can't you have a good ball head on these legs???

From what I have read the Acratech ultimate ball head would suit this tripod fine.

$450.00 from overseas is better than $500 from Australia, that's $50 still left in my pocket.

W00DY

[birddog114]

I can see the Man. legs you have is less value and quality than the G 1227 and equal to the Man. 550B but it's CF rather than AL.
I don't know if there's any heads will suitable, perhaps a funky Manfrotto head will do the job for it.
The real ball head and associated equipment will cost you two or three times of what you paid for the legs and it's not worth it to try on any ballhead.
I visited Vanbar and saw it for $525.00 but can get it down to $500.00 locally. Not worth to buy from O/S for AU$450.00.

Why can't you have a good ball head on these legs???

From what I have read the Acratech ultimate ball head would suit this tripod fine.

$450.00 from overseas is better than $500 from Australia, that's $50 still left in my pocket.

W00DY

Yes, i can see your point of saving $50.00
Yes, any head will fit on any tripod but not only the head will hold the camera

[W00DY]

I visited Vanbar and saw it for $525.00 but can get it down to $500.00 locally. Not worth to buy from O/S for AU$450.00.

Plus their price just went down in the last week. When I visited their store 2 weeks ago they had it listed as $565.00 (the 3 section version).

W00DY

[birddog114]

I visited Vanbar and saw it for $525.00 but can get it down to $500.00 locally. Not worth to buy from O/S for AU$450.00.

Plus their price just went down in the last week. When I visited their store 2 weeks ago they had it listed as $565.00 (the 3 section version).

W00DY

$525.00 was there about three weeks ago.

[W00DY]

Yes, any head will fit on any tripod but not only the head will hold the camera

So are you saying these legs will not hold the D70

I love having these conversations with you Birdy... I always feel like you never approve of anything anyone buys unless it has "VR" or "Gitzo" associated with it

W00DY

[W00DY]

$525.00 was there about three weeks ago.

Then they must have been trying to rip me off

[birddog114]

$525.00 was there about three weeks ago.

Then they must have been trying to rip me off

you have to be wise to think in shopping nowaday. That why you think in your head you get ripped off everywhere and try to find the new venue.

To save your $50.00 in your pocket like a gambling if something wrong with the leg and you have to ship it back to HKG for repair or replacement, is it worth?

I only buy stuff/ items overseas if I can save myself few hundred dollars or anything I can't find or source over here.

To work out the cost of shipping of the leg back to HKG with insurance at least cost you AU$100.00 one way by AP Airmail.

The difference of Gitzo tripod, to buy from HKG and Australia is varied from AU$500 - AU$600.00 and it's justified the saving.

[birddog114]

Yes, any head will fit on any tripod but not only the head will hold the camera

So are you saying these legs will not hold the D70

I love having these conversations with you Birdy... I always feel like you never approve of anything anyone buys unless it has "VR" or "Gitzo" associated with it

W00DY

You have to carefully read my post

What I mentioned was:

Not only the Ballhead will hold the camera, you MUST need the L bracket or camera plate or lens plates to mount your D70 on the ballhead.

You're too simple in thinking of I'm discriminating people buying non VR lens or Manfrotto legs. I always welcome people have the Manfrotto as I said, everyone has difference choices and tastes.

You have to do more study and learn the concept of using tripod and head prior to invest your money into the systems which last you many years to come not buying today and discard it tomorrow, especially in your case you want to save your monies as small as $50.00 and don't want tp spend more. While on the other side you have to fork out $600.00 - $700.00 to acquire a ballhead and minimum of parts to work with your D70.

Your tripod will be fine in mounting the D70, no doubt! with the head! OK no doubt!

[W00DY]

You have to carefully read my post

What I mentioned was:

Not only the Ballhead will hold the camera, you MUST need the L bracket or camera plate or lens plates to mount your D70 on the ballhead.

I thought you meant that the head and legs hold the camera... Sorry misunderstanding.

You're too simple in thinking of I'm discriminating people buying non VR lens or Manfrotto legs. I always welcome people have the Manfrotto as I said, everyone has difference choices and tastes.

I was just having some fun with you (that is why I put the laughing smily at the end of the line). I know you don't care what gear people use.

You have to do more study and learn the concept of using tripod and head prior to invest your money into the systems which last you many years to come not buying today and discard it tomorrow, especially in your case you want to save your monies as small as $50.00 and don't want tp spend more. While on the other side you have to fork out $600.00 - $700.00 to acquire a ballhead and minimum of parts to work with your D70.

Yep, that is what I plan to do tomorrow at your place. One of my questions tomorrow was going to be do I just need to buy the head and plate or are there other things i need?

W00DY

[birddog114]

You don't need to ask tomorrow, I can tell you now:
you'll need the ballhead and the L plates for the camera or the Head with the camera plate only.
Check on RRS, Acratech, Kirk, Markins site, all informations and pricing are there.
If you only have the D70, just go get some funky Manfrotto heads with Manfrotto QRP instead of going down to the winding road same I & other have, and it's cheaper, suitable with the tripod you have in both economical and flexibility ways.

[W00DY]

or the Head with the camera plate only.

This is what I was planning to get. The L plates did look useful but I thought this is something I can get later on if required.

If you only have the D70, just go get some funky Manfrotto heads with Manfrotto QRP instead of going down to the winding road same I & other have, and it's cheaper, suitable with the tripod you have in both economical and flexibility ways.

Looking on Vanbar's site a Manfrotto head which at least look's similar to the markins etc... are still over $400 (Manfrotto 468RC4 Pro ball head)

So I guess what I need to research is if the Markins or Acratech is a much better head (as they are not much more expensive).

W00DY

[birddog114]

Looking on Vanbar's site a Manfrotto head which at least look's similar to the markins etc... are still over $400 (Manfrotto 468RC4 Pro ball head)

It's still far cheaper than the other way and it's matching with your "consumer" grade tripod (It's similar with the Feisol 3401 or 3402)

The other way will cost you minimum at AU$500.00 with the head and the plate (Not the L bracket).

[W00DY]

The other way will cost you minimum at AU$500.00 with the head and the plate (Not the L bracket).

The Acratech would be $365.00 AUD delivered. Wouldn't this be a better deal/head than the manfrotto???

The markins M10 would be $440.00AUD delivered, I am not sure if this comes with the plate or not though, waitign on an e-mail from Markins as someother people have reported the plate is included in the 2005 model.

W00DY

[birddog114]

The Acratech would be $365.00 AUD delivered. Wouldn't this be a better deal/head than the manfrotto???

This is the base model without any option! Fully option is well over AU$400.00 + plates.

The markins M10 would be $440.00AUD delivered, I am not sure if this comes with the plate or not though, waitign on an e-mail from Markins as someother people have reported the plate is included in the 2005 model.

What plate? all head comes with QRP!

[W00DY]

What plate? all head comes with QRP!

Doesn't QRP stand for Quick Release Plate???

Is there another plate I am not aware of???

I thought the QRP was all you needed???

Bloddy hell I am confused by all this

W00DY

[MHD]

I think Birddog mean quick release clamp...
almost all heads come with a clamp... you then need to get an acraswiss plate, weather it is a simple one or an L-plate



Basically:
CAMERA
++++
Plate
++++
Clamp
++++
Head
++++
Legs

[birddog114]

What plate? all head comes with QRP!

Doesn't QRP stand for Quick Release Plate???

Is there another plate I am not aware of???

I thought the QRP was all you needed???

Bloddy hell I am confused by all this

W00DY

QRP = Quick Released Plate is on the ballhead but someome may call it as Quick Released Clamp also on the ballhead with the dovetail.
On the other words, people may call lens plate, lens foot, camera plate etc...

[W00DY]

OK so let's see if I have this right...

So far I have bought the legs so now I need to buy a head plus a plate.

The head will cost me about $400 and the plate will cost me about $60.00 (this is if I go Markins or Acratech.)

OR

I can buy a manfrotto head and plate combo for about $440.00

Is this correct?

Sorry if I sound dumb, maybe I am

W00DY

[birddog114]

Woody,
Legs & Heads, we're going around the circle and circle and never ending, you know that we have so many threads in the past regarding these stuffs, you may review and do more research on those same as many posted sites, you can imagine out which is which and how can it works, they're so simple.
Hope you can find your answer.

[W00DY]

Woody,
Legs & Heads, we're going around the circle and circle and never ending, you know that we have so many threads in the past regarding these stuffs, you may review and do more research on those same as many posted sites, you can imagine out which is which and how can it works, they're so simple.
Hope you can find your answer.

A simple yes or no would have been enough....

Obviously I am not getting something in regards to the setup of tripod heads. I HAVE read the threads (as I have sadi before).

Forget it, don't worry about it I will work it out myself or through a retail shop.

[joet]

Mini meet report for Onyx (and a way of rescuing the thread)

Roll Call : Leek, Wile_E, MattK, Coolhand, SIRHC55, Glen, Huyhnie, Sheepy + Little Sheepy (who's not all that small )

Chris returned us all to Sesame Street by demonstrating the good Greek letter Sigma - not bad lenses either - but was upstaged by Birddog's late purchase of the Nikkor NOCT (another good Greek word) to the expressed envy and lens lust of all present.

See, Onyx, you are not the only one with opportunities to look and be amazed by the wonders that emanate from the Nikon factory of dreams

I'll stop now before getting too carried away - how many more weeks before we expect to see you back at Belmore, Onyx ??