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Been asked before however...Hi All,
My current monitor is getting worse by the hour it seems, blurry almost beyond recognition! I knwo this as I just went from one monitor to another in a different room and the difference was amazing. A fellow D70 guru also commented on this clarity (or lack there of) of images and text on my current screen (looks towards JordanP)..so...my question is, it's time for a new monitor. I have a budget of ABOUT $500 (hopefully a bit less), I'd LOVE a flat screen if possible but don't know much about monitors these days and would very much appreciate input by some local resident experts. I watch with great anticipation. PS - I'd like either 17" or 19". Geoff
I saw an LCD in a cagtaloge (domayne I think) for 399 today... (could be wrong though)
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Geoff, you shjould be able to pick up a 17" LCD for around $360.
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Gary Stark Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
LG make a similar one to the Benq mentioned on that site, but it's faster and cheaper; I bought two this afternoon for $350 each! g.
Gary Stark Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
Mine's an L1750.
Don't know, but I guess 1950 for the 19"? g.
Gary Stark Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
Hi Geoff,
Get a Mitsubishi 19" CRT, cheap and very good colour, also get a matrox video card, great for 2D work (PS) if you are not into games. vl
Geoff,
I follow this thread from the beginning, I still prefer the CRT for PS or PP. Cheap LCD won't help, if you want a good LCD screen, it's costly or at least you get the one with 8ms not 12 or 25ms Birddog114
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The LG's I've bought are 8ms. g.
Gary Stark Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
Yes, I noticed that model too, but it's the lower end one
LG has two other model in 17": LGE L1780Q LGE L193ST But sure, LCD can't beat CRT in PP that why I still use and prefer my Mitsubishi 21" CRT Birddog114
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shutterbug, He has just got the "approval" to buy the monitor , cos he can justified it right now. Wait till he got the monitor and he next complaint is the existing video card then he'll submit a request for a new video card Birddog114
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I'm unaware of what this response time is, I'm currently looking at the LG 1910S for $568 (19") with 12MS. Is this unacceptable for PS work etc? Now I'm really confused LCD/CRT??! I just want a nice looking (preferably thin) functional monitor that's CRISP
If you want thing right with your photos and CRISP, only CRT not LCD. CRT is not thin. Birddog114
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Yup - I know CRT ain't thin...can u recommend a good 19" CRT then birdy?
I won't disagree there, but my workarea precludes the use of a CRT. The LG is sitting very nicely next to the old 15" Mitsubishi LCD (I'm now running dual screens) and it's interesting to see the differences in colour between the two. And my Colorvison Spider doesn't support dual monitor operation. g.
Gary Stark Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
CRT, go for the Mitsubishi 19" same tube as NEC and Leica (spelling)
http://umart.net/au/product_info.php?cPath=45_209&products_id=1564
This 93 model is discontinued since Nov 2004, johndec ordered one in January but I could not get for him. It's old fashion. Birddog114
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As a video card junkie, I would personally not recommend a Matrox card unless you're a video editor.
A video editor who also happens to be a Matrox enthusiast at that. Producer & Editor @ GadgetGuy.com.au
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Leigh, please hold the talk about the video card, geoff is not settled on the monitor yet! Give him few hours for his breath after he made a decision on the monitor, then we will talk about the video card. Birddog114
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And the new mobo, new Hdd with larger size etc......
Birddog114
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Cworld have it for $356 at the moment - certainly will help with the under $500 budget. http://www.cworld.com.au Hold the phone - Umart have it for $289 - gee mine isn't even broken but I might get one of these. http://www.umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=2 Cheers
Georgie
Hehehe to birdy and the graphics card, I currently have a radeon 9600 or something, it seems ok!
I think I have chosen the flatscreen LG T910B (http://au.lge.com/md/product/prodcategorylist.do?actType=detail&currPage=1&categoryId=0000060502&parentCategoryId=0000000605&categoryLevel=4&productId=1100000430&productImage=&selectModel=1100000430 Found it for $342! Now I have to wait until the morning to see if they have it in stock! Thanx again everyone!
I'd take the LG over the Mitsubishi... the placement of the parts in Mitsubishi monitors seems to allow for two lines of pixels to go missing.
I know Birddog's has it that way and the Sony monitors I use at work (and for those not aware, a Sony Trinitron monitor is just a Mitsubishi) have the exact same line of pixels missing. Two lines of pixels, about an equal distance from the top and bottom of the monitor. Producer & Editor @ GadgetGuy.com.au
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Geoff, I'd suggest going to Hardly Normal or other retail places and take a look for yourself at the differences between monitors before you buy. Specs may look good on paper (eg. I like how everone fell into the fallacy of LCD response times: fast = better), and user recommendations (even those you trust are inherently biased) - much of your computing experience is viewed through the monitor, make sure you get one that suits you and that you're happy with.
Geoff, I haven't brought up the video card update to your lust. Shutterbug and Leigh recommended them to you and I ask them to put it on hold until you have the new monitor Birddog114
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I would deffiently recomend an LCD. I find them a lot clearer and more colourful than CRT's.
You can pick up a benq 19" 12ms monitor for $530. Or you could buy quite a few 19" monitors for under $500 that have a 25ms response time. Response time only matters when gaming. It is how fast pixels can change from one colour to another, and in 2d, you are not going to notice the difference between 25ms and 8ms. D300|D70|24-70mm|70-200mm VR II|10.5mm Fisheye|70-300VR|50mm F1.8|Rokinon 85mm f1.4|SB-900/800/600
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Monty,
Geoff has the budget to spend on the monitor! And on CRT! have you had a chance to compare one photos on two monitors LCD & CRT as Mitsubishi or LGE or Samsung at the same time? To do work on photos or PS or PP, CRT is recommended and it's cheaper than the LCD, though it's bulky and look not mordern design as LCD. Birddog114
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Geoff, I ended up getting the 997FD off Birdy and I'm very happy with it.
Leigh The 2 pixels thing is actually a ghost image of two stabilising wires that are in the path of the electrons being fired at the screen. They slightly deflect the beam, hence the line. These are a feature of all trinitron monitors and TVs. Basically the wires stop the frame from being distorted as I understand it. I never notice them unless I go looking. I remember getting my first Macintosh with a Trinitron monitor and taking the "defective" monitor back when I noticed the lines only to be told it was a "feature". Despite the lines, I much prefer Trinitron monitors as I find them sharper and flatter than other monitors. Sony until recently had a patent on the technology and so only Sony sold them. Now other manufacturers also make and sell them. And Geoff, my 2 cents is I'm glad you've decided on a CRT rather than an LCD. They may not have the current wow factor, but for photo work they still beat LCDs. Peter
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That "feature" would irritate me to no end. I'll stick with my Philips, thank you.
Monty, LCD's by no means are any where near as good... or at least as "true" as a CRT will be when it comes down to PS/PP work. That said, yes... most LCD's are easier to read off of than a CRT. It helps to have a light-panel behind the screen. And Birdy... he's got some form of a 9600 gpu... you'd be pretty hard-pressed to tell him that he needs anything else if he isn't playing games, working with 3d applications, or editing video. Producer & Editor @ GadgetGuy.com.au
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Leigh, Please note: I have never recommend him to u/g his video card cos I didn't know what he got Shutterbug and you brought it on first and I asked both of you put it on hold until he got his new montor. And I will never ask people to u/g anything from their inventory unless they seriously asked me for. Last edited by birddog114 on Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Fair enough.
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Again, a huge thank you to everyone involved in this thread for your input. I just purchased the LG Flatron CRT 19" T910B for a crazy $270 - couldn't be happier. Took a bit of a gamble, the shop wasn't answering my calls at all, so I drove nearly 40km's to see if they had it in stock, I was luck! I feel like I have new eyes . Wooohooo! One happy camper! A special thanx to Leigh and Gary for putting me onto fluidtek here in Sydney...unbeatable prices http://www.fluidtek.com.au (but don't expect them to answer the phone if u call)
Geoff.
I was very happy with the price shutterbug yeah, he had at least one more in the shop, I'm soo happy..I now know how crappy my other monitor was...just hoping I have enough room in the wheely bin for it hehe Geoff.
I have a radeon 9800 XXL graphics card, I assume this is good?!
[quote="Geoff
I have a radeon 9800 XXL graphics card, I assume this is good?! [/quote] It should be fine, but if you get a chance, get a matrox card, even an older model on ebay...cheap. The diff is huge, like wearing glasses and not wearing glasses.
Yup, you nailed it. Fluidtek are great... until you have to RMA something, at which time it becomes an almighty pain in the arse trying to even contact them to find out about. Cheap prices but zero service. I am now happy to shop elsewhere, pay a bit more, but know if something does go wrong, I'm not going to have to spend a lot of my own time chasing up after people who couldn't care less.
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