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Help retouching

Postby Alex on Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:51 pm

Is it possible to get rid of the destructing white and red background bits in the lower left part of this photo using PS CS?

What steps in PS would be needed?
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Postby phillipb on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:30 am

Hi Alex,
There are probably many ways of doing it.
I reduced the saturation of the image then used the history brush to restore colour to the face, hat etc.
But you would need to spend a fair bit of time to restore the colour around the hair where the red shirt is to do a good job.

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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:37 am

Now that Phillip has done his part all you need to do further is clone out the white patch. :D
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:40 am

Thanks Philip! This is great!
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:52 am

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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:53 am

oops forgot the white part :lol:
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:00 am

Vince! This is unbelievable. How was this done, please please please??
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:04 am

Hi Alex,
Same as phillipb, completely desaturate, and use history brush to retore area. Also burn the hair abit on both sides, so do hide the red colour behind hair and finally add some blur to image, to smooth face.
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:19 am

Thanks a lot guys! I think I'm finally getting it right. I selectively desaturated the red area.

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Postby Hlop on Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:35 am

shutterbug wrote:Hi Alex,
... and finally add some blur to image, to smooth face.


Hi Vince,

This part is interesting - I did some experiments but didn't get good results. Correct me if I'm wrong - you're copying layer, blur it and then erasing averything except skin, aren't you? What blur are you applying usually?
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:49 am

Used Gaussian Blur on new layer, just erase eye and mouth
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:52 am

I did a simple blur with 1.0 pix radius which gave a hardly noticable result. I didn't really aim for the 'model' look so it was not that important. But in Scott Kelby book, he uses a duplicate layer to give a blur of 3-6 pix radius and then use history brush to go back to the original 'sharp' eyes, lips, and other non-skin elements. But in my case, because the blur was so insignifican I saw no difference in softness of eyes or lips between the original or the image after the gaussian blur. Does this make sense?

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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:55 am

Vince,

Your Gaussian blur gives amazing results, I must say, if one is after that 'mode' look. What radius did you use for blur?
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Postby Hlop on Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:13 am

shutterbug wrote:Used Gaussian Blur on new layer, just erase eye and mouth


Thanks Vince!

What is the amount of blur(radius) you're using usualy?
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:27 am

Usually it depends on the image, around radius 10. Also I burn/dodge around image.
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Postby Hlop on Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:43 am

shutterbug wrote:Usually it depends on the image, around radius 10. Also I burn/dodge around image.


Aw... 10 ... Isn't it too much? Are you lowering layer's opacity?
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:02 pm

Yes, 10 seems like an awful lot but if that's the case, the results are worth it.

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Postby dooda on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:05 pm

If you wanted to fix it up even more, you could try whitening the teeth slightly. If it's someone you know, they may appreciate it. Pretty good shot though if I may say so.
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:07 pm

oh, that was in general around radius 10. For the above image I think it was radius 6.
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:08 pm

What I also do sometime is, have a high radius and use history brush set at 30% and delete some off.
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:00 pm

dooda wrote:If you wanted to fix it up even more, you could try whitening the teeth slightly. If it's someone you know, they may appreciate it. Pretty good shot though if I may say so.


Thanks, mate.

I wasn't really aiming for glamour look as it was supposed to be a snap shot of a model after the show. I just wanted to remove the annoying background. However, I'm glad the thread took off in the direction it has because I learnt some new techniques as a result.

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Postby Hlop on Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:06 pm

Tried to do the same thing - result is crap! It's clearly visible that image has been blured but radius was just 5 :cry: What's been done wrong?
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Postby Alex on Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:55 pm

Looks pretty good to me, Mikhail. The only destracting thing I find with the image is I think you could used eraser to bring back the original hair sharpness on the left hand side.'

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Postby pippin88 on Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:12 pm

I think her nose line has been overly softened, and maybe the right edge of her face? Try lightly history brushing some sharpness back in along those lines?
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Postby Hlop on Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:53 pm

Pippin88,

I think you can achive the same result just erasing top blurred layer but it looks even more ugly. Just wondering how shutterbug softened the skin but kept all the lines sharp ....

Alex,

I wodn't say it's pretty good. Very average result. Not too bad but far from perfect
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