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by KerryPierce on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:09 pm
I was browsing Luminous Landscape tonight and found this article, about his trip to Bangladesh.
http://luminous-landscape.com/essays/bangla-worked.shtml
I'd not seen it before, but I assume that some of you may have. Sorry if this is old news here....
Anyway, I found it very interesting because his needs for the trip were mostly fulfilled with a less than sterling canon 70-300 IS lens. The much maligned 80-400 Nikkor is the equivalent for Nikon, along with the Sigma 80-400 OS.
He also made other points that I found interesting. For instance, his "keeper" rate was 1.5%. I'm sure that a ton of his tossers were better than what I can do, but still, the averages aren't far from what we discussed a couple of days ago.
Another thing was that he used the 1dsMkII 16mp camera over the 20d, because of cropping and, of course, resolution.
I've so often seen the arguments that 6 to 8mp is more than enough for Joe Average photographer, and that the megapixel race is just marketing hype, that I almost get physically ill when I see them.
In my little corner of the world, the d70 is a wonder camera, but I've lost so many shots because of my inability to properly frame the subject the way I want it. I think that is the reality with most amateurs. It seems that the pros have the same issues...  If I could have 12 to 16mp to "pad" my poor ability to frame shots on animals, people and moving subjects, my keeper rate would greatly benefit.
I'm gonna remember that page and cheer when 12 to 16 or more megapixels become consumer items.  Of course, 10gig CF cards better come with them..... 
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by mic on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:31 pm
Kerry, Great stuff.
Very interesting read, now you have got me thinking about MegaPixels
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by birddog114 on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:43 pm
Mic,
Just stole from other site:
"Anyone thinking (or dreaming) of upgrading from their D70 to a D2X might be interested in the article just published in the British Journal of Photography (magazine web site http://www.bjp-online.com). Don't know if the article is available online. This is a lab based comparison between these two high end machines."
Though neither is criticised:
The D2X comes out on top. The article states that the D2X provides more resolution with 12.4 MP than the 1 Ds Mk II does with 16.7 MP. "The authors conclude that "internal signal processing is more important than pixel count or sensor size".
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by Nnnnsic on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:46 pm
That last comment, Birdy, is one of the most intelligent things I've ever seen put up about the megapixel-marketing war... if only because it's incredibly accurate.
It's like the age old (well... not that old) argument between computer junkies about faster chips... and that it doesn't come down to chip speed, but rather chip architecture (that's how you separate the lamers and newbies from the people who know their shit.  )
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by Greg B on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:48 pm
The other things with bigger Mp images (particularly for those of us who are strictly amateurs) are storage (on CF cards, and PSDs, and archiving on HDD and DVD/CD), transfer times, handling files on the computer (opening times, processing times) and so on.
I certainly agree that there are many benefits with large Mp images, but for me, I find the 6 Mp is the perfect balance between quality and usability.
(Of course, when the Pentium 5 2000 Ghz with a 5 Terrabyte HDD is commonplace, I might review  )
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by mic on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:50 pm
Thanks Birddog, I won't be flying out of the Nikon Chicken Coop
I'm surprised Cannon Photographers can even see through the Eyepiece, their Ego's and heads being that large.
One day. One day I'll get a high end Nikon.
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by Hlop on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:57 pm
Birddog114 wrote:Mic, Just stole from other site: "Anyone thinking (or dreaming) of upgrading from their D70 to a D2X might be interested in the article just published in the British Journal of Photography (magazine web site http://www.bjp-online.com). Don't know if the article is available online.
You can register for 2 week trial and read the article "Battle of the flagships". In different words it says what Birddog has quoted
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by Hlop on Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:59 pm
I love this line from the article:
Nikon has greatly improved this technology, and when the D2X is used with adequate lenses it will produce amazing results.
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by birddog114 on Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:12 pm
Hlop wrote:I love this line from the article: Nikon has greatly improved this technology, and when the D2X is used with adequate lenses it will produce amazing results.
Correct! I can tell it by myself, and with the Nikkor Noct 58/f1.2 or the AIS 50/f1.2 (I've just got)
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by Glen on Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:53 pm
AIS 50/f1.2 (I've just got)
Birddy, is there no end to your lust? 
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by birddog114 on Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:04 pm
Glen wrote:AIS 50/f1.2 (I've just got) Birddy, is there no end to your lust? 
Yes, finally one more Nikkor AIS 50/f1.2 found a good home
I'm fall back to the rare manual, fast lenses in the 70, 80.
I'm "drool" the Repro Nikkor 85mm F1.0 Supersonic Macro Lens . Have to get it, yes I'll one day near.
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by Glen on Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:07 pm
Birddy, if I ever see one in Aus I am sure it will be at your place!
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by birddog114 on Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:08 pm
Glen wrote:Birddy, if I ever see one in Aus I am sure it will be at your place!
Yes you'll, I promised 
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