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Postby johndec on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:04 pm

A quick thank you to all that recommended firefox as a browser. Much,much quicker than the IE6 Bloatware.

I used to always be a Netscape user up until a couple of years ago when Mozilla stopped fighting the browser war!! Nice to see that they are having another go.

Quick Question: The only thing that seems to be missing is a "history" tab a la IE6. Does it have one I've missed or is it available via the extensions (which I haven't explored yet)?
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Postby PiroStitch on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:05 pm

John,

Hit Ctrl+H and you will bring up the history panel :)

Also just fyi, Firefox is the only web browser that adheres to the standards set by the W3C (World Wide Web Consortium who standardises website code and accessibility, etc). M$IE claim this but they don't and the only reason why they're getting away with it is because they have the majority of the market, however Firefox is slowly catching up...i think in the vicinity of 20% of global users use Firefox as the browser of choice now ;)
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Re: Firefox.

Postby sheepie on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:05 pm

johndec wrote:Quick Question: The only thing that seems to be missing is a "history" tab a la IE6. Does it have one I've missed or is it available via the extensions (which I haven't explored yet)?

Have a look on the menus - it's under the "GO" menu item
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Postby johndec on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:14 pm

Thanks guys. I just discovered that if you right click on the toolbar, go to customise, you can drag a history icon to the toolbar.

Now it's perfect :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby phillipb on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:18 pm

You can place it on the toolbar similar to IE6, right now I can't remember how I did it though. :oops:
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:59 pm

An interesting point - I have had Firefox for some time but have never really used it.

For the past couple of days I have been having a wee bit of trouble with my normal browser (Safari on a Mac). After reading through this thread I decided to update my Firefox and it works brilliantly.

For other Mac users: I have just updated to OSX 10.3.9 and the problem with Safari started with the update :roll:
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Postby PiroStitch on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:02 am

Who here (who is a mac user) uses IE? I'd just like to know as that's the browser I have the most trouble with at work (web development)
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:03 am

I have to use IE for my banking as my bank does not support Safari 8)
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Postby PiroStitch on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:04 am

Which bank would that be? Use firefox :D
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:08 am

PiroStitch wrote:Which bank would that be? Use firefox :D


St G :roll:

Yes, I will give Firefox a go

EDIT: Firefox works with St George - woohoo :D
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Postby Gordon on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:13 am

I've been using Firefox for ..hmm, must be well over a year now, and Thunderbird for email, love them both!

Now with broadband as of an hour ago when I got my rather complex microwave link going :)))

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Postby Gordon on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:15 am

woops, had an error the first time so reposted...

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Postby PiroStitch on Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:17 am

I'm using thunderbird as well but it doesn't seem to like my inbox....1000+ emails. I guess I need to sort it into folders :D
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Postby Charlie Chalk on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:22 am

Hi Pirostitch

I have a Mac at work with Safari/IE5/Firefox/Camino (formerly Chimera)/Opera/OmniWeb and Netscape on it for testing purposes and would heartily recomend Firefox, apart from Camino its my favourite browser.

I'm sure the rest are there to make my life harder - why can't they all render pages the same grrrrrrr!

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Postby MATT on Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:22 am

I am trying firefox at the moment after another thread highlighted it.

But I am a tad disappointed. It seems to take longer to load web pages and ebay jsut come up with CODE , no web page.


I do like though puting my fave links at the top of the page.

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Postby Killakoala on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:15 pm

I love Firefox for TWO reason.

1. The tabs.
2. It's not Microsoft.

AustralianIT.com.au ran an article about it the other day, pointing out that the programmer who coded it is so young and Micro$oft is concerned that they are losing market share to a freeware programme that is better than their product.
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:29 pm

Yes, they're two of my reasons for liking it.

They were also two of the reasons I tried the new Netscape.

I came away with the following confusion:
How can something based on Firefox suck that much?

From what I'm hearing in a lot of the tech. circles, IE 7 will be a force to be reckoned with. They're pulling in tabs, they're apparently going to make it less buggy (Hah. Hahahahahahahaha.), etc...

Basically, they're doing what they should have done a long time ago and are now going to copy Mozilla to gain their marketshare back.

The sad part?

It very well could work.
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Postby Mark T on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:43 pm

sirhc55 wrote:For the past couple of days I have been having a wee bit of trouble with my normal browser (Safari on a Mac). After reading through this thread I decided to update my Firefox and it works brilliantly.

For other Mac users: I have just updated to OSX 10.3.9 and the problem with Safari started with the update :roll:


Chris,

I also seemed to have a couple of Safari crashes on the weekend (also after updating to 10.3.9). Crashes happened while trying to access NAB online trading. So I reluctantly went back to IE for that exercise!

thinks to self: perhaps stockmarket crash = Safari crash!
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Postby Onyx on Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:58 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:The sad part?

It very well could work.


Yep, especially if they implement it as part of the winblows auto update thingy.
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:04 pm

Mark T wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:For the past couple of days I have been having a wee bit of trouble with my normal browser (Safari on a Mac). After reading through this thread I decided to update my Firefox and it works brilliantly.

For other Mac users: I have just updated to OSX 10.3.9 and the problem with Safari started with the update :roll:


Chris,

I also seemed to have a couple of Safari crashes on the weekend (also after updating to 10.3.9). Crashes happened while trying to access NAB online trading. So I reluctantly went back to IE for that exercise!

thinks to self: perhaps stockmarket crash = Safari crash!


Mark - update to Firefox (free download) - I managed to get my bank with this program :D
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Postby horstflotow on Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:28 pm

MATT wrote:I am trying firefox at the moment after another thread highlighted it.

But I am a tad disappointed. It seems to take longer to load web pages and ebay jsut come up with CODE , no web page.


I do like though puting my fave links at the top of the page.

MATT


I still use Netscape 7.2 for this same reason, Firefox is quick, but I'd like to see more than just the code. I'm also using Thunderbird as my email client most of the time now and would probably switch to Firefox if it displayed more web pages correctly and if it could do the send page that Netscape can do.

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Postby Neeper on Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:00 pm

I've been a Firefox user for sometime now. I agree tha the tabs are the best feature. The biggest reason why I use it!
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Postby PiroStitch on Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:02 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:From what I'm hearing in a lot of the tech. circles, IE 7 will be a force to be reckoned with. They're pulling in tabs, they're apparently going to make it less buggy (Hah. Hahahahahahahaha.), etc...


IE7 won't even support CSS 2 let alone CSS 3....need I say more ;)
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:23 pm

That's never stopped Microsoft from doing well with a browser.

Look at IE 4 and the lack of Java in hopes people would catch on to Active X.
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Postby PiroStitch on Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:38 pm

Yeh I know :) Well at least firefox is here to provide a better alternative ;)
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Postby Mark T on Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:42 pm

sirhc55 wrote:
Mark T wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:For the past couple of days I have been having a wee bit of trouble with my normal browser (Safari on a Mac). After reading through this thread I decided to update my Firefox and it works brilliantly.

For other Mac users: I have just updated to OSX 10.3.9 and the problem with Safari started with the update :roll:


Chris,

I also seemed to have a couple of Safari crashes on the weekend (also after updating to 10.3.9). Crashes happened while trying to access NAB online trading. So I reluctantly went back to IE for that exercise!

thinks to self: perhaps stockmarket crash = Safari crash!


Mark - update to Firefox (free download) - I managed to get my bank with this program :D


Chris,

You may want to have a look at at Apple's Article ID: 301380 which deals with Java and Safari issues after updating to Mac OS X v10.3.9
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:49 pm

Thanks for the pointer Mark. Tested AOK. :D
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Postby Holden on Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:43 pm

Here is a tut on how to speed up firefox http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/index.php?o ... mitstart=0
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Postby stubbsy on Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:58 pm

Thanks for the link Holden, I've just made the changes. Hard to say right away if things are faster. Will know once I do a bit of browsing.
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Postby robboh on Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:31 pm

To the guys who are having safari issues, Apple updated Safari to v1.3 which apparently has a lot of the same internals as Safari 2 will have in Tiger. Apparently this includes quite a few Javascript engine changes. There are also some issues with Java in 10.3.9 which may be contributing to your issues with that site.

There is also a new security update and a Java fix in Software Update right now.

Firefox (or Camino) is something you probably should have anyways. Most things that dont work with Safari do with Firefox, but the differences in the UI generally keep me away from Firefox unless I need it for a specific reason.

Without wanting to start a war, I just want to pass on some of my experiences with my Mac as well. I work in a reasonably high-end IT engineering role which involves a mixture of *nix and (primarily) MS OS's. I got a G5 PowerMac (1.8 single Rev1) about 18 months ago for home.

Since then, my Windows PC has only been used to download my dive computer data and gets looked at once every few weeks to make sure its virus scanners and OS patches are up to date. I used to spend 1-2 hours a week doing this on my XP box. In comparison, Ive probably spent a total of around 1/2 a day administering the Mac since I got it.

Im probably not as fast when working on the Mac, since I still spend 8-12 hrs a day working in Windows, but I FAR prefer the user experience in OS X. I actually enjoy coming home to do stuff on the Mac whereas I used to spend half my time swearing at the PC. OS X gets out of your way and it just works! Oh, and the automatically available spell checker in Cocoa apps is kinda nice too (spell checked web posts) :)
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Postby PiroStitch on Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:49 pm

FYi, firefox update has come out with a few security patches (v.1.0.3)
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Postby georgie on Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:04 pm

I have been using Firefox well forever and love it - I have some really good extensions but this one is great.

Forecast Fox - You can set it up to display the weather forcast in your toolbar or status bar. It is automatically updated.

Here is the link for it.

https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id=398
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