The photo police hit Spencers Street

Have your say on issues related to using a DSLR camera.

Moderator: Moderators

Forum rules
Please ensure that you have a meaningful location included in your profile. Please refer to the FAQ for details of what "meaningful" is.

The photo police hit Spencers Street

Postby kipper on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:39 am

Reading the User Comments section of the Herald Sun today. It appears that a photographer was stopped while taking photos of the works being carried out at Spencers Street and informed that photographing the area was strictly prohibited for Security Reasons.
Darryl (aka Kipper)
Nikon D200
kipper
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3738
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:23 pm
Location: Hampshire, UK

Postby Nnnnsic on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:40 am

What's happening down there?
Producer & Editor @ GadgetGuy.com.au
Contributor for fine magazines such as PC Authority and Popular Science.
User avatar
Nnnnsic
I'm a jazz singer... so I know what I'm doing
 
Posts: 7770
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:29 am
Location: Cubicle No. 42... somewhere in Bondi, NSW

Postby Greg B on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:43 am

Good grief.

a. Because it is ridiculous, and
b. because kipper is reading the Herald Sun (AKA The Hun, The Dirty Document, etc)
Last edited by Greg B on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
Greg - - - - D200 etc

Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
User avatar
Greg B
Moderator
 
Posts: 5938
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:14 pm
Location: Surrey Hills, Melbourne

Postby PiroStitch on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:44 am

WTH? You've got to be kidding me :S
User avatar
PiroStitch
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4669
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:08 am
Location: Hong Kong

Postby MHD on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:45 am

Thats where you ask for his name and make a real rant about it!
New page
http://www.potofgrass.com
Portfolio...
http://images.potofgrass.com
Comments and money always welcome
User avatar
MHD
Moderator
 
Posts: 5829
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:51 pm
Location: Chicago Burbs

Postby kipper on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:54 am

Greg B, have to have a laugh about something, and the HS provides a lot of that. I just love Mark Knights cartoons and Andrew Bolt is amusing :)
Darryl (aka Kipper)
Nikon D200
kipper
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3738
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:23 pm
Location: Hampshire, UK

Postby PlatinumWeaver on Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:13 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:What's happening down there?


Redevelopment of the station. ( I think that's what you were asking )
http://www.spencerstreetstation.com.au/
Goddamn crappy flash site doesn't work in Firefox..
PlatinumWeaver / Dean
Asking the Stupid Questions
<a href="http://www.platinumweaver.net/" alt="PlatinumWeaver Homepage">http://www.platinumweaver.net/</a>
PlatinumWeaver
Member
 
Posts: 498
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:43 pm
Location: Melbourne, VIC

Postby sirhc55 on Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:18 pm

Ridiculous - the problem is that if you pointed a rocket launcher at them they would not have said a word.
Chris
--------------------------------
I started my life with nothing and I’ve still got most of it left
User avatar
sirhc55
Key Member
 
Posts: 12930
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:57 pm
Location: Port Macquarie - Olympus EM-10

Postby kipper on Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:26 pm

Yeah they would of probably gone "Ahh look, it's those whacky Taliban guys"
Darryl (aka Kipper)
Nikon D200
kipper
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3738
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:23 pm
Location: Hampshire, UK

Postby PiroStitch on Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:52 pm

Right after they crapped their dacks! ;)
User avatar
PiroStitch
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4669
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:08 am
Location: Hong Kong

Guess they wont like my pics then ...

Postby darb on Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:28 pm

How dumb, thers only what, a few thousand high rise around it with private apartments and businesses where someone could so easily photograph the site ... so the assertion that someone photographing at street level is a "terrorist threat" is SO retarded I have trouble understanding how these people got jobs.

Image
User avatar
darb
Senior Member
 
Posts: 1020
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:03 am
Location: allll ovvverr (live in perth)

Postby Deano on Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:09 pm

At risk of going slightly off the (photography) topic, I do wonder what instructions these security people get and how almost anything can be justified "for security reasons".

For example at my local Bunnings (aka Mecca) there are normally two "security" people at the front door as I exit. They always ask for my receipt and without looking at it or the goodies I have bought they stamp the receipt and let me on my way. The stamp says Security Checked. Twice I have asked why they want to stamp my receipt and I get the answer, "for secuirty reasons." In both cases I continued to ask why and the security droids had no idea.

Next time I am determined to say no when asked for my receipt and see what happens.

I'm gald to get a chance for this rant - my wife thinks I'm an idiot (I suppose that goes without saying).

Cheers
Dean
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

D2x | Nikkor 24-120vr & 50/1.8 | Sigma 12-24 & 24-70/2.8 & 70-200/2.8 | SB800 | Velbon 640CF Tripod w/ Markins M10 & RRS plates.
And then there's my Bag Collection... Sweeet....
;-)
User avatar
Deano
Member
 
Posts: 319
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:57 pm
Location: Canberra, Australia

Postby PiroStitch on Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:19 pm

Dean,

Good approach at Bunnings :) I'd rather try it at Bunnings when the products bought are not worth more than the D70 :) I've had a run in before with a security guard and I challenged him to give me reasons which he couldn't do :S

Go the Gung ho attitudes of the politicians and society...this gen and gens down the future are not going to have a fun life.
User avatar
PiroStitch
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4669
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:08 am
Location: Hong Kong

Postby gstark on Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:05 pm

Deano wrote:Next time I am determined to say no when asked for my receipt and see what happens.


Remember to have your questions to them prepared in advance. See if you can entice them into suggesting that you're absconding with goods, but without having paid for them. That's when the fun begins.

FWIW, that sort of practice is one taken from the US, where at a great many stores they now have untrained security monkeys perfoming this useless ritual as you leave the stores. Fry's, Best Buy, The Good Guys, Sams Club, etc all have been doing this for years.

I don't stop for them, forcing them to follow me as I walk out of the store.

And I never wait for them: if they're not ready for me as I come through, that's their problem, not mine.
g.
Gary Stark
Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff
The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
User avatar
gstark
Site Admin
 
Posts: 22918
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:41 pm
Location: Bondi, NSW

Re: The photo police hit Spencers Street

Postby embi on Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:55 pm

kipper wrote:Reading the User Comments section of the Herald Sun today. It appears that a photographer was stopped while taking photos of the works being carried out at Spencers Street and informed that photographing the area was strictly prohibited for Security Reasons.


This is amazing. I have to walk the length and breadth of the station each day as I walk around it to go to work. Only this arvo as I was stopped by the Security guard as he waved a truck through did I think what a great photo opportunity. I imagined setting up a tripod and doing a long exposure of the work going on. Blurred motion etc.

I didn't have my camera today and I was annoyed at the time I didn't. Now I am determined to get those shots. :)

Stay tuned. :twisted:
User avatar
embi
Senior Member
 
Posts: 510
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:07 pm
Location: Melbourne - Nikon D70

Postby PiroStitch on Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:29 pm

Embi, did he stop you for security reasons :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
User avatar
PiroStitch
Senior Member
 
Posts: 4669
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:08 am
Location: Hong Kong

Postby embi on Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:41 pm

I might just get my "decisive moment" shot now :)

Will it be the workers, working?

Will it be the security guard coming over to talk to me?

Will it be the hand of the security guard covering the lens?

Or will it be my mug shot (Russell Crowe style) as I'm led to the police car? :lol:
User avatar
embi
Senior Member
 
Posts: 510
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:07 pm
Location: Melbourne - Nikon D70

Postby phillipb on Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:53 pm

embi wrote:I might just get my "decisive moment" shot now :)

Will it be the workers, working?

Will it be the security guard coming over to talk to me?

Will it be the hand of the security guard covering the lens?

Or will it be my mug shot (Russell Crowe style) as I'm led to the police car? :lol:


Just remember, when they ask you why you refused to hand over the D70, say for "Security reasons" :wink:
__________
Phillip


**Nikon D7000**
User avatar
phillipb
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2599
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:56 am
Location: Milperra (Sydney) **Nikon D7000**

Postby Nicole on Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:16 pm

That's just really odd that you can't take photos. Makes no sense to me.
Nicole
Web Site
Nicole
Senior Member
 
Posts: 569
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:54 pm
Location: Melbourne

Postby Wacky on Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:35 am

Deano wrote:Next time I am determined to say no when asked for my receipt and see what happens.

Do it...as far as I am aware, they have no legal right to demand to see your receipt...you can keep walking out, for if they try to stop you - correction - , if they DO stop you, it is false arrest and you should threaten to call the police. Any further trouble, call them (the police) immediately and start to have fun.
Wacky
Member
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:29 pm
Location: Sydney, North Side

Postby Rick on Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:12 am

I can understand Bunnings security checks, in Sydney when Bunnings was BBC a team of brickies I had working for me reconed BBC stood for "Barries Budget Cement"

His scam was to pick up a ton of cement in the morning, go back in the afternoon tell the boys to load a ton while he went in and paid, came out waved the morning docket at the gate keeper and was on his way, 2 tons for the price of 1.

Now if the docket is stamped it can't be used twice.

But i still think it is crazy to use security to try stopping photography in public places, so far it has'nt happened to me, must be my innocent good looks.
Rick
Member
 
Posts: 111
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:02 pm
Location: Castle Hill, Sydney

Postby tasadam on Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:24 pm

Geez I used to live in Merlbourne. I'm a bit behind the times (goes without saying as I'm now in Tassie... :D )

What is that building??

New Spencer Street railway station at a guess. By golly where DOES your government get the money? Consolidated revenue contributed in part by fines collected from the Photo Police?? :twisted:
Share what you know, learn what you don't.
Wilderness Photography of Tasmania http://www.tasmaniart.com.au
User avatar
tasadam
Senior Member
 
Posts: 631
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:57 am
Location: Near Devonport, Tasmania

Postby Deano on Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:51 am

An update on the Bunnings story...

On Saturday I refused to provide my receipt until the security guys could tell me why he wanted it. I finally got the answer and it was as Rick suggested. They are protecting against someone coming back with their receipt and taking another product. He actually said it was in case I dropped the receipt in the carpark and someone else came back with it. At least he had the sense not to infer that I would try to rip off Bunnings.

No loss really as I was wondering what I was going to do with two tonnes of cement.

Cheers
Dean
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

D2x | Nikkor 24-120vr & 50/1.8 | Sigma 12-24 & 24-70/2.8 & 70-200/2.8 | SB800 | Velbon 640CF Tripod w/ Markins M10 & RRS plates.
And then there's my Bag Collection... Sweeet....
;-)
User avatar
Deano
Member
 
Posts: 319
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:57 pm
Location: Canberra, Australia


Return to General Discussion

cron