R1800 Version 2 'Back to the Paper'

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R1800 Version 2 'Back to the Paper'

Postby petermmc on Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:04 am

Hi printers

I printed my fist print last night using Tetenal paper Semi Matte.
Very sharp but has some, what I would call glossy blotches, on the lighter parts of the subject. It looks like someone varnished only certain bits on the matt background.

Any ideas?

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Re: R1800 Version 2 'Back to the Paper'

Postby Hlop on Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:38 am

petermmc wrote:
Very sharp but has some, what I would call glossy blotches, on the lighter parts of the subject. It looks like someone varnished only certain bits on the matt background.


These seem to be blown highlights I assume. To correct the problem try to "squeeze" image a bit with levels in PS or what you're using for PP. In levels, don't touch input but in output set 2-4 for dark part and 245-250 for the bright part thus printer will put some inks to these blotches otherwise it thinks they are pure white spots and "saves" inks for you :)
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Postby gstark on Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:49 am

What printer settings did you use?
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Postby petermmc on Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:19 am

I simply used the best photo setting and the matte option. Perhaps I used the wrong paper setting. I purchased both A4 and A3 and have only used the A4. If it is a paper incompatability I will return the A3 and get some Ilford. If not I would like to fix it.

Kind regards and thanks for your interest.

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Postby gstark on Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:37 am

Peter,

Go into the advanced options dialog and see what you have available.

I think too that it's a paper "incompatibility" issue, except that I would expect that by selecting a different paper type, you will get better results.

How does the paper describe itself? Does its documentation include any sort of compatibility settings that you can play with?

I'm expecting that, being Tetenal, it's a heavy weight high quality photo paper, so I would probably be looking at the paper options that best match that sort of paper, and if it's a pearl, lok towards a semi gloss or gloss, and see how those come out.
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Postby Glen on Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:18 am

Peter, could be either of the above, youv'e got the week off, experiment and try both solutions and tell us :wink:
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Postby petermmc on Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:58 am

I'm on the case. The paper describes itself as Ink Jet Semi Matte Paper 240 g/m2(squared). I used the matte setting. It has a natural sheen like a light pearl and is not at all dead like a real matt.

I'm gonna print again as soon as I've marked a few papers and you will have the results.

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Postby Glen on Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:20 pm

Be interested to see your results. Sorry about the wrong name, it was from memory and I obviously got confused with the solicitor of the same name. They seem to import and push the german paper, so will be interested to see what you think of it
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Postby petermmc on Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:18 pm

Glen

I got it wrong too. You said Marsdens, I said Masdens...when I drove past this morning (after the morning walk down the beach...week off) I realised it is Madsens. Now you can sleep.

I still think the German word for 'Driver Settings' which is on the back of the A3 pack makes the paper worthy of purchase even if it is no good. It goes like this:

Druckertreibereinstellungen


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Postby Glen on Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:21 pm

Peter, Mad sens is enough for me to work out, little alone a word which seems to use 3/4 of the alphabet :lol:
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Postby petermmc on Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:36 pm

Dear printers

I changed the setting on the paper and I am a happy camper. Extroadinary results, no blotching at all. It was obviously over compensating for what it thought was matte paper when in fact, though called matte is more of a mild pearl.

There is a mild sheen on this paper that accentuates characteristics of a portrait. It looks like it will be a while before I crank up the old dark room again.

Thanks for your help and interest.

Peter Mc

I would now recommend this German paper. I have always said that Germans make some of the finest papers in the world (Always since about ten minutes ago) It is also sold at quite a cheap price at the moment at Madsens. He has a special on and I think I paid $20 for the A4 and $41 for the A3 both 20's. Having not purchased much paper lately I thought that was pretty good.
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Postby gstark on Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:02 pm

Peter,

Good news indeed; another happy R1800 camper on board.

Who's got the 4th one? I know Birddog delivered one a couple of weeks back ...


And Peter, just wait until you feed it some A3+; if you think that the A3s are nice ... the extra size really brings home just how nice this printer is.

Now, what was that you were asking about an A3+ sized avatar? :)
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R1800 & B&W

Postby petermmc on Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:34 pm

I am still having a good week with this fantastic printer. I had a go at B&W and the results are great which is different to some of the reviews I have read.

This makes me think about the thousands of B&W negatives I have and I would like to bring back to life. Finally I can crop and dodge and burn without using rheems of paper.

Any suggestions for a good (cheap) 4000dpi neg scanner?

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Re: R1800 & B&W

Postby gstark on Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:57 pm

petermmc wrote:Any suggestions for a good (cheap) 4000dpi neg scanner?


Do you have an old fashioned 35mm slide copier that you wrench onto the front of your D70?
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Postby petermmc on Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:06 pm

Hi Gary

No, I never got around to getting one of those. Would it produce the same kinds of results as a flash neg scanner? What lens would you use it with?

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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:08 pm

There's the Minolta 5400 scanner that does for a relatively decent price, as well as the 7200 dpi scanner I'm still having fun tracking which is made by a noname group but scans 35mm at 72dpi, as well as the Canon and Epson flatbeds that scan 35mm at reasonably high res's too.
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Postby petermmc on Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:08 pm

I hope I didnt give you the impression that my 'purist' B&W past means that I am hankering to do everyting manually.
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Postby petermmc on Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:12 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:There's the Minolta 5400 scanner that does for a relatively decent price, as well as the 7200 dpi scanner I'm still having fun tracking which is made by a noname group but scans 35mm at 72dpi, as well as the Canon and Epson flatbeds that scan 35mm at reasonably high res's too.


Hi Nnnnsic

I will have a look at the Minolta as one of the few cam shops in the gong has one I think. I guess if its no name you probably wont be able to tell me the brand. Sounds good though. How high is the res on those flat beds?

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Postby gstark on Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:06 pm

petermmc wrote:Hi Gary

No, I never got around to getting one of those. Would it produce the same kinds of results as a flash neg scanner? What lens would you use it with?


I have no idea about what sort of results it might produce, but there are varying types, that use built-in lenses, or a close-up lens ...
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