Comp progress

[sheepie]

I think as part of the announcement of winners, you should also present a full statistical analysis of the voting trends

[birddog114]

I think as part of the announcement of winners, you should also present a full statistical analysis of the voting trends

and the winners required to clarify its "DECISIVE MOMENTS"

[embi]

I have started voting and have been able to sort what I feel doesn't fit. As for the rest, once again.... "Where do I start".

[PlatinumWeaver]

I found it helps when voting to do a full view and pay attention to the label of each shot. The labels tend to steer you towards what the photographer was thinking at the time..

..maybe not full-view for all, I think there are a few 3008x2000 shots in there, and that never looks good squished in an IE or Firefox window..

[embi]

I have actually printed out each page of images so that I can lay them all out in front of me on the table. I can then see them all at once.

[MHD]

I have actually printed out each page of images so that I can lay them all out in front of me on the table. I can then see them all at once.

Wow I am impressed...

hehehe... MHD and the comps: Effectively taking up more of your time

[Link]

I have actually printed out each page of images so that I can lay them all out in front of me on the table. I can then see them all at once.

Waw! This sounds like professional judgement! But surely the best way to compare the entries...

Link.

[MHD]

another interesting stat: Each time the vote button is pressed I get a notifcation...

I have 634 notifacations

[embi]

That just means Leek has changed his mind 600 times

[leek]

Close...
but not yet... maybe by Sunday...

[PlatinumWeaver]

You think that's bad.. I have about 25 email messages letting me know that this thread has been updated, and those are just the messages from today..

[MHD]

Make that 26 (sorry couldnt resist )

[leek]

Hey Scott,

Am I right in thinking that 1 or 2 photos from the first round have disappeared or been withdrawn??? I can definitely remember one that isn't there any more - and maybe there was another???

[Heath Bennett]

Yeah that was me - re-read the rules and realised it was shot too long ago...

[gstark]

Should we add an extra image to the comp? One of the voting process?

Surely another decisive moment.

[sheepie]

Should we add an extra image to the comp? One of the voting process?

Surely another decisive moment.

in-decisive more likely

[sirhc55]

I believe that if the words Decisive Moment are mentioned ever again I will do an impersonation of Edvard Munch

[rokkstar]

I believe that if the words Decisive Moment are mentioned ever again I will do an impersonation of Edvard Munch

And I'll do a double Van Gogh

[gstark]

I believe that if the words Decisive Moment are mentioned ever again I will do an impersonation of Edvard Munch

Can I watch?

[phillipb]

DECISIVE MOMENT

[Manta]

I found it helps when voting to do a full view and pay attention to the label of each shot. The labels tend to steer you towards what the photographer was thinking at the time..
..

My personal view is that the captions shouldn't be taken into account and that the image should pretty well speak for itself. There were a few in the last challenge that, without a very pointed caption, could never have been deciphered as meaning "3".

There was talk earlier on about not permitting captions or just having every entry titled "The Decisive Moment". This prevents the viewer from being led down a path of interpretation and allows them to make up their own mind. I think it's part of the challenge to get an image that 'says it all'. The winning images should need no explanation.

[sirhc55]

Simon, I believe that without words there would exist in society millions of photos that would be meaningless.

I believe that the biggest misnomer are the words ”Every picture tells a story”. Can you imagine every magazine and newspaper in the world publishing pics without a caption to define the pic - an example might be a volcano - great pic but where in the name of hell is it happening? Can you imagine the nightly news without words - hey, this happened today we have the pics but we really can’t tell you where, why or what for.

How often in this forum have we read the words - where was the pic taken, what is the pic of - we need words as much as we need vision IMO

[Glen]

Simon and Chris, in appreciation of your discussion I will post this which is from Sheetshooter and Bob Hughes discussion (sorry about lifting it). The photographer is making a social commentary with photography but also uses captions. Brought to mind your discussion.

http://www.terra.com.br/sebastiaosalgado/

[Manta]

Glen and Chris - excellent points well made gentlemen.
I hereby exercise my God-given right to change my opinion in the face of irrefutable evidence...
I've enjoyed this enlightening episode and will keep it in mind.

[Glen]

Simon, I think we all should be fluid to some extent. When I saw those works your discussion sprung to mind, as his captions are like short essays

[MHD]

This is a great thread

Now: Vote! Vote! Vote!

Think of it this way: You HAVE to vote for the PM.... But he does not have the chance to win a d70s

Imagine how annoyed you would be if a photo you did not like won and your vote could have changed the outcome!

[gstark]

This is a great thread

Now: Vote! Vote! Vote!

Think of it this way: You HAVE to vote for the PM.... But he does not have the chance to win a d70s

Imagine how annoyed you would be if a photo you did not like won and your vote could have changed the outcome!

Imagine how pissed you'd be if the PM won the camera!

[Nnnnsic]

Imagine how pissed Birdy would be.

Hell, imagine how pissed we'd all be if he started to turn up to minimeets.

[MHD]

I dont imagine we will be... we will be busy checking out the kit of the press core

[birddog114]

Imagine how pissed Birdy would be.

Hell, imagine how pissed we'd all be if he started to turn up to minimeets.

Simple, I'll order him to the corner and on knees

He's not welcome at our leisure.

[Nnnnsic]

Imagine how pissed Birdy would be.

Hell, imagine how pissed we'd all be if he started to turn up to minimeets.

Simple, I'll order him to the corner and on knees

He's not welcome at our leisure.

Now THAT'S a decisive moment!

[PlatinumWeaver]

Glen and Chris - excellent points well made gentlemen.
I hereby exercise my God-given right to change my opinion in the face of irrefutable evidence...
I've enjoyed this enlightening episode and will keep it in mind.

I would love to have been a part of this episode, but you guys were just too damn quick. You raised your point, they raised theirs, added an article, resolved the issue and all within a single hour.

[MHD]

TOTAL re-arrangement of the top 5

0.01 points between 1 and 2

[PlatinumWeaver]

Does that mean that the top 5 and images that weren't in the top 5 before, or that there are 5 or so images that have pulled ahead of the rest and they're swapping places?

[Nnnnsic]

I think it means that those that were in the top 5 have just been scrambled around.

[MHD]

bit of both
mainly a re-arrangement... but one that was in the top 5 just dropped out..

[MHD]

oh goodness me!
There are about 7 entries that could take 1st prize... every vote will count!

[embi]

Ok...a bottle of NZ sav blanc has been consumed....maybe that will help me work out where to start voting.... Back to it

[birddog114]

oh goodness me!
There are about 7 entries that could take 1st prize... every vote will count!

So, 7 will share a body of D70s, how can we do it?

[birddog114]

MHD,
What's happened if we have two or three photos sharing 1 first prize.
(Same amount of vote?)

[MHD]

It will not happen...

Comp organisers Indulgence... I vote and know the positions of the entrants... and even though I have never had to in the past I would adjust my votes to break a tie in any of the position holders...
one of the main reasons I dont enter

[birddog114]

It will not happen...

Comp organisers Indulgence... I vote and know the positions of the entrants... and even though I have never had to in the past I would adjust my votes to break a tie in any of the position holders...
one of the main reasons I dont enter

I never enter and it's the reason! I'll vote at last if it's the case
Hehehehe! Just ask and test

[xerubus]

excuse my ignorance as i haven't read the entire thread... far far far too long....

is it just me... or were there very minimal entries for the outstanding prizes on offer!?!

cheers

[MHD]

55 Entries is not to bad... ~ 20 ahead of a regular comp....

Its easy enough to enter and people are encouraged at every turn so I am happy with the number..

[xerubus]

55 Entries is not to bad... ~ 20 ahead of a regular comp....

Its easy enough to enter and people are encouraged at every turn so I am happy with the number..

from the ~20+ entries it's a great response.... just thought that considering there are 1040+ members that there would be more entries?

do you think it's just that people doubt their skills?

cheers

[MHD]

yes... 1040 registered members... but how many active members??

Also you must have 5+ posts to enter...

[birddog114]

55 Entries is not to bad... ~ 20 ahead of a regular comp....

Its easy enough to enter and people are encouraged at every turn so I am happy with the number..

from the ~20+ entries it's a great response.... just thought that considering there are 1040+ members that there would be more entries?

do you think it's just that people doubt their skills?

cheers

I was expecting at least or over 60 entries for 2nd round + the entries of first round, made up total of 100, I say 10% of the registered member.

[xerubus]

very true....

... which brings up another point (must be the red wine).... why bother registering if you are not going to be part of the community?

i'll stop now...

[MHD]

Cause its easy...
Becuase lots of people have one question to ask then move on...

Gary etal: how many Members are there?

[gstark]

55 Entries is not to bad... ~ 20 ahead of a regular comp....

Its easy enough to enter and people are encouraged at every turn so I am happy with the number..

from the ~20+ entries it's a great response.... just thought that considering there are 1040+ members that there would be more entries?

do you think it's just that people doubt their skills?

MArk,

I certainly think that's a part of it, but also, there's a reason why it's called a "challenge".


I know you understand that, but I think that some here perhaps think a little too lightly of this aspect.

Then there's the ratio of active members to members. I think we're probably running at about 15 - 20%, which I am quite satisfied with. Typically, one would expect somewhere around 10%, I imagine.