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Postby birddog114 on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:07 pm

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Postby birddog114 on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:10 pm

Got music now!
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:12 pm

Birddog114 wrote:Got music now!


I plugged my mic port directly into my Z-680's headphone output... I need to find a double jack pronto!

I wanted to test it out. Lol.
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:13 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:So what you're really saying is she wants to make sure you don't go nuts with the lens lust, right? :lol: :lol: :lol:


She's no help.. bloody supportive women.. would be a lot cheaper with a nag I'll tell ya.. :!:

She doesn't even want my lens money for shoes!! :cry:
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:15 pm

With pixels like that, this looks like Doom!

{edit} I heard a cough {/edit}
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:18 pm

PlatinumWeaver wrote:With pixels like that, this looks like Doom!


I'm working on it!

This whole quality ratio algorithm stuff requires mathematics... did I mention I was trained as an artist?! :)
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:21 pm

I think you have the basics of how this works as well :)
We need a live chat so we can make fun of it..
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:31 pm

We have the script for that and we should be getting it into place later on tonight.

I need to code the page that'll integrate everything in one nice place for everyone...
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:38 pm

The picture went good for a while!
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Postby gstark on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:42 pm

Birddog114 wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:Okie dokie... if you tune in today and tonight, you'll be treated to my ugly mug for most of the night and then later on we'll try going mobile and you might be treated to some odd walkabout we might try, to see how this will work from the unwired connection.

Can I get a show of people who won't be attending the AW who are interested in using this technology and watching / listening to the event via this means? :)


Will we try it out as testing at tomorrow night?


We have enough logistical issues just getting to the restaurant at a reasonable time tomorrow evening, let alone grabbing the hardware and setting up, so, sadly, no.

Leigh an I will be doing some unwired testing this evening though, and we'll know tonight whenther we're running or not.
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Postby gstark on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:45 pm

PlatinumWeaver wrote:The picture went good for a while!


Must have been me.
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Postby gstark on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:46 pm

Nnnnsic wrote: I need to find a double jack pronto!


Ask and ye shall receive.
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:52 pm

 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Postby cyanide on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:53 pm

Unfortunately I still can't get it. I realise it's a problem at my end.

Not you, Nnnnsic, as I know you have your hands full, but anyone else:

- what comes up when you click that link?
- what program is it using to show you stream (eg Windows media player or similar?)
- if anyone else had to change their Norton settings in order to access the stream, pls let me know what you did....

I regularly access other streams on the net, so dunno why this one isn't working... hmpf. :? :x
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:56 pm

When you click the link a little Flash application appears -in- the webpage.

It looks like:

Image

then looks like:

Image
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Postby embi on Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:59 pm

Its alive... :)
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:01 pm

144 x 108 seems okay.

And pixelated... yeah... well with our 512 upload, we have to make as many sacrifices as we can so I'm working on sacrificing pixelation issues for size.

Audio seems like it might be okay. We'll be testing that too later tonight.
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Postby cyanide on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:02 pm

Many thanks, Dean. I don't get that - I get stuck at a white screen.

I will keep trying... Cheers. :)
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:04 pm

What OS?
What browser?
What's your connection speed?
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Postby cyanide on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:06 pm

Windows XP / using IE6 atm (have also tried with Firefox) / broadband cable connection.....
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Postby Aussie Dave on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:08 pm

cyanide wrote:Windows XP / using IE6 atm (have also tried with Firefox) / broadband cable connection.....


me too....
XP (SP2)/IE6...& just downloaded/installed Flash Player 7 (and rebooted)
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:08 pm

hmm.. go to macromedia and grab the latest version of the flash plugin?
Flush cache?
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Postby embi on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:09 pm

cyanide wrote:Windows XP using Firefox / broadband cable connection.....


I am using that combo and I get it fine...and I'm behind 2 firewalls
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Postby cyanide on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:10 pm

It's definitely a Norton problem - if I disable the firewall long enough to connect, it works.... not a great option but better than not being able to connect at all....

Shall keep looking.... there's obviously a setting somewhere that I have to change...

Cheers :)

Edit: will also try latest version of Flash Player 7, just in case that helps... thanks for the suggestions, peoples....
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:11 pm

We had a problem a minute ago.

I'm not entirely sure what it is. Working on it.

I'll do the dishes after this bug, Dad. :)
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:12 pm

What's the firewall?
Does flash need UPnP?

Leigh - Audio seems out.. wasn't before..
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Postby embi on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:16 pm

I have a problem now...theres a scary looking man on my screen :P
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Postby Aussie Dave on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:19 pm

cyanide wrote:It's definitely a Norton problem - if I disable the firewall long enough to connect, it works.... not a great option but better than not being able to connect at all....

Shall keep looking.... there's obviously a setting somewhere that I have to change...

Cheers :)

Edit: will also try latest version of Flash Player 7, just in case that helps... thanks for the suggestions, peoples....


exactly, what did you do Cyanide ?? I've turned Nortons off & Win XP Firewall and I still just get the white screen....????
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Postby embi on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:19 pm

I have audio
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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:20 pm

THATS GOOD!
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Postby cyanide on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:24 pm

Aussie Dave - I just went into Norton Internet Security, clicked on Personal Firewall > Off... then refreshed (the stream link), and it connected. Then I turned the firewall back on, and it stayed connected (it seems to have stopped while I was typing this but I think that is something to do with Nnnnsic's current tests...)
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:25 pm

We're in full testing tonight.

White screen, eh?

Okie dokie... I'll check Flash Comm's server to see if there are any back doors you can use or other settings...

But we've got the DV cam's working. :)
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:26 pm

I haven't yet put in the "refresh" button at the bottom of the page.

There is already a "force refresh" active at 2 minutes viewing of the page.

However, you will need to refresh if the image stops. I'm not entirely sure what's going on and I'll try to chase up that bug tomorrow.
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Postby Aussie Dave on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:29 pm

cyanide wrote:Aussie Dave - I just went into Norton Internet Security, clicked on Personal Firewall > Off... then refreshed (the stream link), and it connected. Then I turned the firewall back on, and it stayed connected (it seems to have stopped while I was typing this but I think that is something to do with Nnnnsic's current tests...)


GRRRR....still no joy ! Damn this infernal machine :evil:

EDIT:
This is the correct link is it not ???
http://www.leighlo.com/video/simplePlayer.html
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Postby Geoff on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:30 pm

Stop flashing us....









With your torch :)
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Postby sheepie on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:32 pm

I see Gary's lips moving but he ain't making any noise.

hehe - all sorts of things could be said here ;)
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Postby Rusty W. Griswald on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:32 pm

I see Shane Warne bowling...

/oops wrong screen
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:37 pm

Dad hasn't got a mic.

I'm about to switch him over to one of the older DV cam's. You will notice a quality issue.

White screen people: try a force refresh. Ctrl+F5 should do the trick in Firefox or Mozilla-based browsers.

I have known Flash to not load as a result of caching issues in my development times with it so try a force refresh and see if it makes a difference.
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Postby mic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:43 pm

Dad hasn't got a mic. ?

I glad of that, I'm not cheap you know
:lol: :lol:

Guys, can ya get this thing in the bedroom :lol: :lol:

Have fun, we are :wink:

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Postby birddog114 on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:44 pm

mic wrote:Dad hasn't got a mic. ?

I glad of that, I'm not cheap you know
:lol: :lol:

Guys, can ya get this thing in the bedroom :lol: :lol:

Have fun, we are :wink:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby pl55 on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:52 pm

I just saw SANTA on my screen :lol: :lol:

He looks a bit tired ..... :lol:
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Postby mic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:56 pm

Birddog's my Santa :lol: :lol:

My wife asked me what I wanted for my 40th early next year, guess what I said, ring Birrddog and ask him to send a D2X :lol: :lol: :lol:

I won't go into the response :cry: :cry:

Yes, Santa does look a bit tired :lol:

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Postby birddog114 on Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:59 pm

mic wrote:Birddog's my Santa :lol: :lol:

My wife asked me what I wanted for my 40th early next year, guess what I said, ring Birrddog and ask him to send a D2X :lol: :lol: :lol:

I won't go into the response :cry: :cry:

Yes, Santa does look a bit tired :lol:

Mic. :wink:


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Good choice and taste! :wink:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:01 pm

In trying to get Dad's machine connected up with one of the DV cam's, I somehow made his primary monitor stop working.

I'm not having an altogether great day.
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Postby Onyx on Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:07 pm

Now that you have the DVcam running Leigh, hope you've read this guide. :lol:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:09 am

Alas, this camera isn't for the camwhore in me but the camwhore at the Saturday night AW...
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Postby Charlie Chalk on Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:36 am

Leigh is that a recording or are still working on the camera thingy?

(I aint got no sound by the way)

When you get a minute :shock: would you mind telling me what goes into getting the camera working through Flash Server?

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Postby Charlie Chalk on Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:44 am

Not sure if this might be on any help, but a few weeks ago we had a rather important presentation given to us over the internet by the CEO of our company (He's in the states).

The visual side was taken care of by some third party 'on-line' application (complete with your own handler to sort it for you). But the audio was provided via Skype.

I thought that it would be asking for all sorts of trouble - feeds not synced (sp?) etc, but it worked a treat.

I'm sure you'll have good sound sorted with the system you are working on, but if not maybe try Skype?

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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:40 am

Whilst I'm not entirely familiar with Skype, I highly doubt we can send both the video and the audio out to more than one user at the same time, which is what this app lets us do.

I am aware of third-party Flash Comm server groups that do it for you like Akamai and VitalStream, however, that's out of our budget for what we're doing here.

And I am on the camera thing at the moment, provided my wireless connection doesn't fog out on me... it has a few times tonight already... but I have turned off the sound.

And now I have chat with the video... thanks Dad for setting that one up and thanks Darren Gates at TUFaT.com for making FlashChat. :)

Let's do some testing, peoples!
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Postby shockadelica- on Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:12 am

hey Leigh

video fine
sound fine
beard ..glorious

address under video..cut off
i see DSLRUsers.c

login just popped up
(if moderator)
well thats not me
so im guessing thats all i can give you now
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