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by anubis on Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:36 pm
Guys,
I succumbed to Lens Lust and purchased a 70-200 VR, let me know what you think of the following Photo.....!
Taken at F2.8 @ 200mm, ISO200 I think, 1/500 Shutter. Reduced Size of whole picture for posting in Photoshop no other adjustments (e.g. lighting, sharpness etc).

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by Glen on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:07 pm
Nice shot, I am sure you will love that lens. Try to keep your shots to 800 or under on the long side, helps those on dial up and with smaller screen sizes.
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by anubis on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:19 pm
Thanks Glen, will keep the shot smaller next time.
Tell me guys how would you improve the shot?.
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by kipper on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:25 pm
Background is too busy for my liking.
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by Glen on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:29 pm
Anubis, as the bird is the focus here, I would walk about five steps closer so the bird fills the frame more. Then again, the bird may fly away 
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by kipper on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:36 pm
Glen, that's when the lust gets the better of you and makes you want to take it to the next level 
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by avkomp on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:50 pm
I know about trying to walk a few steps closer to fill the frame.
Works with any other subject in the world.
Birds on the other hand just fly away laughing at you.
need more glass for good bird shots, and a sense of humour
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by christiand on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:52 pm
Welcome to the VR club !
Isn't she a beauty (the 70-200VR it is)
She is also a bit weighty.
(are you getting a TC17E aswell ?)
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by samester on Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:58 pm
anubis wrote:Tell me guys how would you improve the shot?.
i agree with kipper and glen, i'd concenrate on the in-focus areas and crop out the busy background.
the background detracts from the puzzled look on the birds face and i'd crop accordingly.
here's a quick, rough attempt!!

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by beetleboy on Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:01 pm
A few quick tips..
I know you were probably trying to blur the background with the shallow depth of field but you'll find at 200mm you can probably shoot at f5.6-8 and still have a shallow DOF but your image will have more punch and sharpness.
Also, I agree RE the composition..get a little closer, go on, sneak up!
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by MATT on Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:20 pm
Must resist the lust....
At least until Next year.
Looks like you'll have lots of fun with the 70-200
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by Heath Bennett on Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:32 pm
Same lens, same bird, different sex?

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by anubis on Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:42 pm
Guys, your not suggesting I get the 200-400 VR are you, bad influence my mother warned me about you lot in school
seriously ...the 1.7 Teleconverter is next on the list for me....but need to recover from the 70-200 VR first.....it took me a month to convince my fiancee to release funds....
Thanks for all the tips...
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by birddog114 on Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:51 pm
anubis wrote:it took me a month to convince my fiancee to release funds....
Hehehehehe!!
Another "miserable" with fiancee, why should the best photogs get involved with these words?  Can we live without it?
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by spartikus on Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:27 pm
Congrats on the new purchase, and keep posting shots!
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by sirhc55 on Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:43 pm
Congrats on the purchase. Critique as per others on cropping or getting closer and I will add that it needs a contrast boost 
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by Willy wombat on Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:17 am
First shot is a little bit big (i cant see the whole thing on my monitor) but nice colours. I look forward to seeing more results from the VR. Im quite envious lust.... lust..... lust
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by kipper on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:17 am
Nah, as if the 200-400VR! If you're serious about nature photography you'd go a prime lens
As the other guys said, try getting closer, this will help with the background aswell as it will go more OOF.
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by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:37 am
kipper wrote:Nah, as if the 200-400VR! If you're serious about nature photography you'd go a prime lens 
Not really! prime is only good for some situations and intended purposes but not always, required lot of skills and extra bit of equipment to do with it + fiancees will shake their heads or demand a BIG diamond ring to compensate  and it's their pain to shoulder  Not like you, kipper! a young bachelor and you be your own boss  though these fellows are not doing what you're aiming for so the zoom will help them a lot. As the other guys said, try getting closer, this will help with the background aswell as it will go more OOF
Ask Matt.k to borrow his outfit and creep closer to the birds. 
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by huynhie on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:46 am
Birddog114 wrote:fiancees will shake their heads or demand a BIG diamond ring to compensate
Not only fiances but wife's will also have a go at demanding big diamond rings as well. 
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by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:52 am
huynhie wrote:Birddog114 wrote:fiancees will shake their heads or demand a BIG diamond ring to compensate
Not only fiances but wife's will also have a go at demanding big diamond rings as well. 
Not mine! I know how to reign my territory 
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by huynhie on Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:58 am
Birddog114 wrote:huynhie wrote:Birddog114 wrote:fiancees will shake their heads or demand a BIG diamond ring to compensate
Not only fiances but wife's will also have a go at demanding big diamond rings as well. 
Not mine! I know how to reign my territory 
 It was a bad idea of me to set a precedence when I started this hobby, now I have to go with it BTW wife's should be wives, unfortunately it's my second language 
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by robboh on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:02 am
Congrats Anubis.
Welcome to the 70-200VR club. They have lovely bokeh dont they? Agree with the others that a crop or a foot zoom (or a TC) is in order for that pic
Mine own 70-200 has FINALLY arrived back from the repair shop and so Im really looking forward to getting out for a play myself.
I got mine 2ndhand and it went straight to the shop for a new f-mount as the camera wouldnt keep contact with the lens (vendor payed for that!!). That took 6 weeks, but its back now and man is it sharp. So much sharper at wideopen / minfocus / fullzoom than my old 80-200 AFD 2touch.
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by birddog114 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:06 am
huynhie wrote: BTW wife's should be wives, unfortunately it's my second language 
Do you know how's the man run their family in the traditional of Asian way?
It'll help a lot if it can be applied here also 
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by sirhc55 on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:13 am
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by anubis on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:15 pm
Hey Guys,
A Diamond Ring! --- man don't tell her she hasn't asked for anything yet...maybe shes saving up credits....
I will get some camo gear and sneak up on em birds.....we'll see how I go.
Thanks for all the comments, love the Bokeh from the Lens, its sensational even at f2.8 200mm.... BTW Bought the lens off Adorama 2nd Hand am very impressed.
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by kipper on Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:19 pm
Robboh, any idea how much the f-mount cost to replace?
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by robboh on Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:53 am
kipper wrote:Robboh, any idea how much the f-mount cost to replace?
Kip, it was an hour's labour and $70 for the part, so 'bout $150 Kiwi all up.
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